Apple WWDC - New iPhone Today?

MaFt · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:48 am Post subject:

regarding POIs there's no reason why they cannot add support for them.

i use collectorz.com's database/collection software on my pc and their software can export the database to their iphone app's via bonjour/wifi using the current iphone OS 2.2.1. OS 3.0 adds the ability to bluetooth data to the phone and also use the serial port.

all they need to do is create the software (or maybe adjust tt home to do it?) to allow 3rd party data (ov2) to be sent to the iphone for the app to use.

i suspect they won't do this though cos then people might realise that their camera and poi data aren't very good.... although NOT doing it could exclude sales from the more 'hardcore' who want a decent navigation app on their phone not just the 'ooh look i got tomtom on my phone, look how cool and modern i am' crew...

MaFt

sneeks · Lifetime Member Joined: Feb 17, 2006 Posts: 99

I'll be buying this and hopefully the cradle will be a good solution to power my iPhone while using the soon to be released PGPSW speed camera database app.

NickG · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:05 am Post subject:

Does anyone know if the car kit incorporates a GPS? The iPhones internal GPS is not anywhere near good enough for real-time car navigation (doesn't work in towns for example) and so an external GPS would be required. It looks like the mount might incorporates an aerial or GPS due to that "lump" near the top?

EDIT: Seems like it does Smile

The site says "The TomTom car kit for iPhone ... enhanced GPS performance"

Darren · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:11 am Post subject:

NickG · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:15 am Post subject:

Actually the "enhanced gps performance" mentioned for the dock might simply be a better antenna rather than an external gps receiver. I'd be suprised though if there antenna connections on the bottom connector as if that was the case, I would have thought that someone would have released and accessory already. A serial GPS built into the dock seems more likely.

bedbug · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:35 am Post subject:

Darren · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:42 am Post subject:

Ok some limited addittional info:

The cradle does indeed have a built-in receiver. No news as yet as to whether this means 1st Gen iPhone and Touch are supported
The cradle has a built-in speaker
Optional music playback over car speakers via standard audio cable.

That's all I have for now but the inclusion of a receiver is both welcome and interesting as it all but admits that the supplied receiver is not very capable!
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bedbug · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 am Post subject:

Oh damn, there IS a receiver... ok, so that's how TT are resolving the impact on their PNDs over potential pricing - it's going to be an expensive bit of kit and you pretty much need both software & hardware if you want performance. There was always a question over the antenna in the 3G. I wonder if they've improved it for the 3GS? It's a warning to all the other potential software solutions.

Shame the audio isn't via an FM transmitter - a wire? That won't work in my car, for starters.

Oh well...
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bedbug · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:13 am Post subject:

Oh ok, so now I'm starting to answer my own questions...

If you look at the picture Here, the implication is that the dock connector connects the iPhone to the cradle, but the mini (or is it Micro?) USB connector on the cradle is used for charging, presumably both the iPhone and the cradle's receiver (& other active circuitry).

And the audio cable is for running to what? Either your installation cabling on your car audio system (if you're lucky), or a cassette adapter if your audio system still takes cassettes (mine doesn't) or a direct Aux audio input (which mine doesn't have!). Grrrrrrrrrr!

So, as well as the charging cable I'm going to need to run the audio output into a generic FM transmitter to get audio to the in-car HiFi... dull dull dull.
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mikealder · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:26 am Post subject:

But if the OS3 adds the A2DP profile to the iPhone it should be possible to send the audio via Bluetooth to a suitable car stereo or one fitted with the iO-Play module.
As for the GPS, being an on road navigation package the position will be locked to the road which should reduce some of the jitter associated with the poor perfmance of the internal receiver. To get a true working solution though is going to be rather costly by the looks of it - Mike

Darren · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:35 am Post subject:

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