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DennisN
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Anybody know what the TomTom X40s have? Do they even have the cameras, never mind the speed?
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Jeez I drove this stretch both ways tonight and drivers clearly didn't have a clue how the cameras worked or what speed they should do. When the 50mph section ended people speeded up a little then slammed on the anchors when they saw the next set of cameras. So dangerous but I'm sure the revenue will be HUGE.
Why Keymed are involved I dont know - this section is miles from them. Not a section that's easy to speed on either as it's often so congested.
Oh and 2 of those fatalities were where those huge barriers are in the reservation, with all the signs that say "fatal accident site do not cross". They were not caused by speeding but by 2 pedestrians crossing a busy, fast moving road to get to McDonalds becasue their drive didn't want to drive to the junciton and back so had stopped in the petrol station. The driver was cleared although remains traumatised to this day by his experience. |
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DennisN
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I'm no football fanatic, but did anyone else notice that these cameras were activated just in time for Chelsea to visit Southend in the cup? I wonder how many fans paid an extra £60 for their night out?
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| DennisN wrote: | | Anybody know what the TomTom X40s have? Do they even have the cameras, never mind the speed? |
Just updated the 940 TT camera database and it does seem to have these SPECS.
I ran a demo and it flashes a "50" sign all the way along the A127 from just past the A132 roundabout until just before the first fixed Gatso:3410@40. There was also a Warning triangle with a camera and what I think must be a speedo in it which flashed up instead at times. It doesn't seem to have the exact camera locations marked (unless they were hidden under the PGPSW icons, which I doubt), and it all seems a bit vague what's going on, but obviously having the reminder going all through the zone is a good feature. |
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Eecho-News.co.uk: "The controversial average speed cameras on the A127 are not working properly and have not caught a single driver since they were introduced last month."
A127 speed cameras are not working yet
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| Presumably they use the 'standard' specs cams, so does this not throw doubt on all specs cams?? I wouldn't bet on it. Perhaps they need a higher standard of evidence than other forces? |
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punzel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: will boyracers be caught? |
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Does the ANPR system actually understand all the illegally spaced and illegal typefaces used by boy racers and other arrogant drivers who think they are above the law? I am hard pushed to know what they really are sometimes so I doubt it. Can any police or county council official confirm please?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the fatal and serious accidents were caused by "lads" on their way to Southend on a Friday and Saturday night for an unofficial "cruise". Why should they be operational the rest of the time?
Thank $deity I moved from Southend to Lancashire a couple of years ago. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| punzel wrote: | | Does the ANPR system actually understand all the illegally spaced and illegal typefaces used by boy racers and other arrogant drivers who think they are above the law? I am hard pushed to know what they really are sometimes so I doubt it. Can any police or county council official confirm please? |
No which is why the layout and font is specified as a legal requirement.
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JockTamsonsBairn
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| Darren wrote: | | punzel wrote: | | Does the ANPR system actually understand all the illegally spaced and illegal typefaces used by boy racers ... |
No which is why the layout and font is specified as a legal requirement. |
However, presumably, the ANPR system will recognise that it hasn't been able read the plate and pass it to a human?
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Darren
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| JockTamsonsBairn wrote: | | However, presumably, the ANPR system will recognise that it hasn't been able read the plate and pass it to a human? |
If it's a manned ANPR then yes. Until recently drivers with plates that didn't comply would get a warning but they're taking these much more seriously now.
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punzel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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If only I could believe that the police were taking illegal registration plates more seriously. In my 10 minute walk from home to the bank and back at the weekend, I saw 5 illegally represented reg plates. They are really so blatant, and confident that they won't be stopped, that they drive around flaunting them freely. There is one parked at the top of my road which permanently has its numbers and letters disguised with screws to change the whole meaning of the plate.
I think these new speed cameras will catch some people, but are unlikely to catch those that deliberately and persistently flout the law with these misrepresented plates. The chances are that many of them probably have no road tax or insurance or both, maybe even disqualified too.
There should be a web site, perhaps part of the DVLA, where they can be reported, then Mr Plod could go round to the registered keeper, fine them the £1000 and confiscate the plate. That would see a significant reduction in this activity.
| Darren wrote: | | JockTamsonsBairn wrote: | | However, presumably, the ANPR system will recognise that it hasn't been able read the plate and pass it to a human? |
If it's a manned ANPR then yes. Until recently drivers with plates that didn't comply would get a warning but they're taking these much more seriously now. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| punzel wrote: | | If only I could believe that the police were taking illegal registration plates more seriously. In my 10 minute walk from home to the bank and back at the weekend, I saw 5 illegally represented reg plates. They are really so blatant, and confident that they won't be stopped, that they drive around flaunting them freely. There is one parked at the top of my road which permanently has its numbers and letters disguised with screws to change the whole meaning of the plate. |
I must admit I'm bemused as to why you are so upset about these. Surely there are far more important things to get worked up about?
To my mind they become MORE recognisable (at least by human eyeballs), so if a copper was told to look out for one, it stands out like a sore thumb.
And they are all pretty obvious what they SHOULD say, if someone takes 5 seconds to look at a speed camera photograph.
But if one of the myriad government spy cameras gets confused by them, then jolly good, I say! |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| punzel wrote: | I think these new speed cameras will catch some people, but are unlikely to catch those that deliberately and persistently flout the law with these misrepresented plates. The chances are that many of them probably have no road tax or insurance or both, maybe even disqualified too.
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They probably drink, smoke, swear a lot, give the finger to other drivers, speed, drive without due care an attention, etc. Let's generalise and create a brand new stereotype shall we.    |
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Darren
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:46 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| Andy_P wrote: | | But if one of the myriad government spy cameras gets confused by them, then jolly good, I say! |
And what about ANPR, anti-terrorist etc? ANPR is live and not always manned by a human operator.
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DennisN
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Re: will boyracers be caught? |
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| M8TJT wrote: | | punzel wrote: | I think these new speed cameras will catch some people, but are unlikely to catch those that deliberately and persistently flout the law with these misrepresented plates. The chances are that many of them probably have no road tax or insurance or both, maybe even disqualified too.
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They probably drink, smoke, swear a lot, give the finger to other drivers, speed, drive without due care an attention, etc. Let's generalise and create a brand new stereotype shall we. |
Yes, let's do that - suggestions for a name please? I'll open it with "Arrogant Bs"
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