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RoySA
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: CAMRA POI Reply with quote

Hi,

Has anyone imported the CAMRA pubs POI file? If so how?
http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280240

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you wanting to put this file on the SatMap active10 device or some other hardware platform - if you want to use it on the active10 then you will need to convert the file to a type that SatSync can read - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish to put it on the Satmap but am not sure how to convert it nor whether the size is too large for the satmap
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand CAMRA are hoping to have several format versions of the data. But if the two formats are different (I THINK Satmap uses asc), POIEdit is a good converter program, though I am sure there are others.

Can't say about size - do you mean the data file or the icons? I'm sure there will be plenty of room on the card for the data.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the person who made the GBG POI for CAMRA (as a volunteer), I can probably comment on this thread.

I'm very happy to create POIs in different formats. I'm currently working on the format for Nokia maps.

We had a support email from someone asking whether the SatMap G10 was supported. SatMap's product documentation had nothing in it about formats and how to load POIs on. For some silly reason, I didn't think to check here. The person who raised the support email put me in touch with someone from SatMap. I even sent a long email to him (lewis.price@satmap.com - Sales & Marketing Executive), with a whole load of details, but never received a response.

The main problem is that if we add a POI version for a specific device then we have to support that. Having never used a SatMap, it is a little difficult to test, prove, document the installation and subsequently support it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure someone here can convert it and test for you?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. That said, it still isn't clear what POI format is supported. SatMap devices aren't listed on http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/camera_compat.php - so I can't confirm the format.

Until I have info about the format and how to load the POI onto a device, I can't justify my own time to work on it. I'll try to remember to chase the chap at SatMap that I emailed.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked SatMap about this and they have just replied that
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There is a new version of satsync being worked on to help the transferring of POIís, this is due for release in about 6 weeks
so there should then be more information then.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent. When it is, I'll probably be on here asking for a volunteer to test a sample file and comment on the documentation that I'll have written.

I chased SatMap and now have contact details of someone more technical, who I'm waiting to hear back from.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex

Several of the formats listed include gpx ..so what is the problem?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that I didn't know that GPX was the format to use and that you could load it on with SatSync until today.

It isn't at all obvious - I thought that a good place to start was with the full manual http://www.satmap.com/pdf/fullguide.pdf (20MB). I couldn't find any mention of SatSync or GPX format in there at all (I've re-checked now). That's when I tried to get in touch with SatMap.

Thank you for the pointers. I suppose that I'd better get on with making a POI for it (when the Nokia one is complete).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of points:

(1) GPX. As for routes SatMap FAQs says
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Q:Iíve got a GPX file that will not import.

A:We support standard GPX files however there are many variants of GPX. If you are
experiencing problems importing your route please check the file: if there is a lot of
information in there other than a simple route file (e.g. pictures, large text files, etc), then
this is not a standard GPX file and will not be compatible.
So there is the question of just WHAT the Active10 expects in a GPX file;

(2) POIs. While GPX files are in principle acceptable to Satmap, their system has to process the input data to produce a specific desired result. Setting up a POI display capability surely is not necessarily the same as plotting routes or waypoints (or other data). Information is required that is not necessarily on the planned route (until you realise you want to go there!Razz ).

Maybe I'm missing something, but I wonder whether it's not a bad idea to wait the short time till the Satsync info is available?

I've been trying to set the CAMRA GBG2009 POI data up in my Navigon 8110 - while the data format standards are quite straightforward, I have not yet had full success in the conversions - and have had a bit of data corruption on the way that I hope I have overcome Mad - due to format standard 'differences' and unit data limitations. So I'm a bit cautious about statements such as
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so what is the problem? Confused !!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your info BigPerk. I'll ask SatMap to supply me an example of a GPX that they do support.

If you can create a sample GBG POI file (5 points?) of a working format on your Navigon 8110 and send it to the GBG POI support email address (gbgpoi AT camra DOT org DOT uk), I'll happily implement this format for you and your fellow Navigon users.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realised CAMRA charge £5 to download the POI file in the existing formats !!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the cost of (less than?) a couple of decent pints, 4ndynorfolk - surely well worth it for non-lager louts Razz

(Well, it would be if I could get the conversion to work properly on my Navigon Confused )
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