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Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject:
Mullet wrote:
You DO realise this is the technique your anti virus protection employs?
What are viruses?
I haven't had a virus problem since I moved away from Windows and the only reason I have antivirus software is to prevent inadvertently passing a virus on to some poor, unsuspecting Windows user
A Unix-based OS is also inherently more secure than Windows _________________ Andy
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I aint going there this is one safe haven from the OS wars.
Anyone want to state their protection preferences?
I'll set the ball rolling:
OS: MS Vista
Antivirus:
NOD32
I have tried many over the years but seen nothing to match the effectiveness and the update frequency.
Firewall:
Windows FW AND router hardware FW. Abandoned Sygate Pro since Symantec got their hands on it
Spyware:
SpySweeper
Very competent catches everything? Frequent definition updates.
Spam:
Mailwasher Pro
Auto filters before it gets to my PC, delete from the server, even bounce.
Run ALL scans and sweeps twice weekly overnight as a minimum.
Note that they are all payware (except MS FW) and not the choices of the masses, the best things in life are seldom free. Nothing will ever be 100% all of the time but this is the best I can come up with, and believe me, I do put some effort into my protection.
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10641 Location: Suffolk, UK
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:57 am Post subject:
DennisN wrote:
What do I need on my Super Expensive MacBook Pro 17 (v10.4 Tiger) for roaming, please?
GPS_fan wrote:
I haven't had a virus problem since I moved away from Windows and the only reason I have antivirus software is to prevent inadvertently passing a virus on to some poor, unsuspecting Windows user Cool
A Unix-based OS is also inherently more secure than Windows
I have always run MS windows, OK we all had virus problems in 95, 98, 2000, 2002 but since XP I have run AVG Free and have not had one single virus.
On 98 and 2000 I used to run Norton, not only did it slow the computer down to a near stop, but it used to let virus's through, AVG runs in the background without being noticed.
I have three computers running XP and a laptop with Vista.
The XP's have SpamFighter to collect Spam and the Vista uses the MS spam collector, both work perfectly each time.
Please note the following is just my view -
This 'Mac' worship seems to be for certain computer snobs, yes it has some advantages over Microsoft, for instance CAD work, but for general use there is nothing wrong with MS, as most of the world has shown in OS sales and all software (except Mac) works on it first time.
Please don't answer this unless it is non-aggressive, as i'm not starting an OS war, just my opinion. _________________ TomTom Go 60
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Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:55 am Post subject:
GJF wrote:
as most of the world has shown in OS sales
Not strictly an indication of which is the better - VHS outsold Betamax, with Betamax arguably being the better and preferred by professionals, but that's another story.
Each to their own, but don't knock something you haven't tried _________________ Andy
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Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15138 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:57 am Post subject:
personally i think the whole mac vs pc is as pointless as the tomtom vs garmin. both have their pro's and cons and if you look into a bit it tends to be that you prefer whatever it was you had first (in general at least!)
anyway security stuff:
Main PC:
WinXP SP3
Antivirus: AVG8 free antivirus / antispyware
Anti-Malware: Spybot S&D & AdAware
Spam: SpamAssassin (part of my hosting package) & Thunderbird's Junk Mail Filter
Firewall: NAT Firewall via Netgear router
Laptop:
WinXP SP2 (not sure why it's not auto-updated to SP3...)
Antivirus: McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8
Anti-Malware: Spybot S&D
Spam: Thunderbird's Junk Mail Filter
Firewall (at home): NAT Firewall via Netgear router
Firewall (roaming): was using ZoneAlarm free, just trying out Comodo at moment but not too keen, probably go back to ZA soon!
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14892 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject:
GJF wrote:
there is nothing wrong with MS, as most of the world has shown in OS sales and all software (except Mac) works on it first time.
I just wish SOME of my software worked first time on my Windows XP X64-bit system - it's all running in 32bit emulation mode. MS is in most of the world due to MS marketing positions, not because it's great stuff. I suppose most of the people in Beijing happily breath smog every day - sort of monopoly situation, innit? _________________ Dennis
.....................Each to their own, but don't knock something you haven't tried
I have used Apple Mac for CAD and I thought it was as good as MS, in other words - it worked and did the job it intended. Apple used to be far better, but now i don't see a lot of difference.
I have to admit that Apple design is superb, I drool over the thin laptop.
As MaFt quoted, 'it tends to be that you prefer whatever it was you had first (in general at least!) ' I think that has a lot of truth in it.
To me the end product purchased has to be the price and value for money, if it works, other than hardware design, I can't see the point in paying more.
As you say each to their own. _________________ TomTom Go 60
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......I just wish SOME of my software worked first time on my Windows XP X64-bit system - it's all running in 32bit emulation mode. MS is in most of the world due to MS marketing positions, not because it's great stuff. I suppose most of the people in Beijing happily breath smog every day - sort of monopoly situation, innit?
I rarely have a problem installing software, (I can't remember the last snag) as a business user i use lots of different new programs, I must be lucky (or clever ) as they seem to work first time.
I'm not saying you, but i feel that users are often more at fault than the software.
As for 64-bit system's and 32bit mode, that is technology going faster than machines and software writers can handle.
It would be nice if one day they could all get their act together and read from the same 'song book'. _________________ TomTom Go 60
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Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:
GJF wrote:
As for 64-bit system's and 32bit mode, that is technology going faster than machines and software writers can handle.
Mac OS has been 64-bit for some time, so maybe it's going faster than Microsoft writers can handle _________________ Andy
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14892 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:
GJF wrote:
As for 64-bit system's and 32bit mode, that is technology going faster than machines and software writers can handle.
I've had this machine just over two years. The 64bit program directory contains Internet Explorer (which I don't use), Messenger (which I never used until recently) and Outlook (which I don't use). Hewlett Packard are NOT producing any printer drivers for 64-bit and that's just one manufacturer. It's not a case of too fast technology, it's me being suckered into getting a white elephant. I'm surprised TomTom Home runs on the machine (albeit in the 32 bit mode). Even Google is in my x86 program files directory. _________________ Dennis
As for 64-bit system's and 32bit mode, that is technology going faster than machines and software writers can handle.
Mac OS has been 64-bit for some time, so maybe it's going faster than Microsoft writers can handle
True!
It depends on who requires a full 64-bit and for what use, it that is important and is the main requirement, than a good excuse for spending extra for a Mac.
There is already a massive amount of computer purchasers who have more money than sense, (and know how) there are a lot of people who must have the best and spend a fortune to surf the internet and write the occassional letter.
Gamers, CAD and professional users who need a full 64-bit often have to settle for less as they can't afford the best, or the office hasn't been updated.
As far as i know Mac's still don't cater for Gamers by use of all games available.
In my office it is easier to use MS as it is already familar to the user.
I have often threatened to buy a Mac laptop for my use, but then it goes back to compatibility when back in the office. _________________ TomTom Go 60
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject:
GJF wrote:
There is already a massive amount of computer purchasers who have more money than sense, (and know how) there are a lot of people who must have the best and spend a fortune to surf the internet and write the occasional letter.
Ouch - that hurts when it jumps up and bites me in the bum! _________________ Dennis
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MS is in most of the world due to MS marketing positions, not because it's great stuff. I suppose most of the people in Beijing happily breath smog every day - sort of monopoly situation, innit? 
