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Tom59
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely this is something that TomTom / TeleAtlas or people of that ilk could do? They have already successfully named all the roads, town and villages, one little itsy bitsy river wouldn't make that much difference to them. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an angler and would like to see the river names myself, before I saw sense and bought a tomtom I briefly had one of the RAC units which used route 66 if I can remember rightly - these displayed river names as you passed them, it was the only good thing about it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Route 66 uses NavTeq mapping where TomTom use TeleAtlas supplied maps so this could easily explain the difference in detail.
Also bear in mind that the supplier (TomTom and others) will choose to leave out certain map details in order to keep the overall map file size down so it will fit on their devices (not all units will accept an SD card for extra capacity).
None road related information will be first to get the chop as it is of no relevance to the intended purpose of road based navigation - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew it was different mapping Mike Thumbs Up
Tomtom should ditch their POI which in my opinion are useless (use pgps instead) and show river names on the map - easy Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with CrazyHazy.

Road maps show much more than just the roads.
This day and age, memory is cheapest it has ever been and s is processor power. TT et al can and should put more into their machines.
Look how far mobile fones and PDAs have come in a few short years.
Personally I think the satnav folks are lagging behind in the tech stakes.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest the detail on that RAC unit was a lot better, just a pity the unit itself was pants to use!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both river names and names of lakes are available in the original map data supplied by Tele Atlas so it would be an easy task for TomTom to include this information in the navigator maps. The most obvious reason why they haven't done this already is that they want to keep the size of the map files down. But as the cost of memory card is going down steadily, we could always hope that TomTom changes this in future map releases. Or why don't they include this extra information on the regional maps but leave them out on the multi-region maps?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too would like to see a bit more detail.
When I was playing with a couple of Garmins a few weeks ago, I didn't like the LOOK of the maps at all and names of roads often didn't show up, BUT I did like the way that some other features (like golf courses, commons and even cemeteries) were named.

TomTom could easily include these, but they seem hell-bent on reducing and reducing the size of their maps, losing more and more detail along the way. As you say, memory is so cheap now, but TT are on a one-way course.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to be exactly the opposite of the bloatware writers, Microsoft springs readily to mind. Don't people moan about them too, having to buy bigger and better computers to run the supersized application?
Having said that, it does seem strange that TT seem hell bent on making things smaller by omitting detail that already seems to run fine on the existing hardware.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GJF wrote:
PaulB2005 wrote:
.............however i then came to the same conculsion as SteveOsl, where you could have a POI and an icon where a road crosses a river.

I can't find any at the minute....


I would have thought this would be a massive undertaking, with some rivers such as the Thames having lots of bridges, or vantage points where the road has a beauty spot next to the river.
Some of the POI's would have to be broken down to the River name only as they would have more entries than all the McDonalds outlets alone.

Sounds like a life times work to me.
plus the Thames as you mentioned has more than one name at points along its length, for instance at Lechlade it is the river Isis, how many more rivers change their names? Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the first things I did when I got my first Go, was make a POI category of the London Bridges over the Thames. It's only got 25 entries so didn't take long to make.

As said above, it doesn't mean the names show as you drive past them, but it is really useful for things like a "travel via" when you want to go somewhere and someone says something like: "Oh you don't want to go over London Bridge, there's roadworks, use Tower Bridge instead".

If anyone wants it, I could email it or post it here, I guess.


Incidently, I was surprised how many roads that become bridges don't have any clues in their name... Chiswick Bridge for example is just "Clifford Avenue" on the South side, turning into "Great Chertsey Road" on the North.
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