A40 "Blocked" - Map Share is a Disaster!!

DennisN · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:

Personal opinion only - I wouldn't be contributing, I've enough on my plate verifying speed cameras. If such a thread got off the ground, I simply wouldn't have the time to copy them all to take them out with me.

I'd prefer an online petition for everybody to grouse at TT into getting it right.
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MaFt · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Official reply from TomTom

bazelk · Regular Visitor Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 80

I would like to say a big thank you to TomTom. I am going to get all the members of my local residents association to use there map share feature to show the main road through our village as closed so as to stop all those nasty lorry's and cars coming through!. Only joking but you can see my point.

MaFt · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:

bazelk · Regular Visitor Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 80

Personally I think somebody at TomTom has dropped a big one, admittedly not as big as the governments 2 missing disc's but it's close.This is so open to abuse from the intellectually challenged through to the do it for a laugh brigade.

DennisN · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject:

Fellwalker

I had been reading the claims for mapshare and as my pda is getting on, and my gps receiver is dying, i had considered buying a dedicated TT for the mapshare.

The problems I have had navigating round have not ever been due to road works or blocks, but to new roads over the last 2 years. TT takes me the wrong way, because it does not know about the newer faster roads. It nearly caused a marital by trying to take us 2nd exit at a roundabout, when the new road is now 3rd exit, and avoids a village which now has speed bumps. I know this because a month before I had gone into the village, and it was a nightmare.

Near home is a bypassed village where the bypass cuts 5 minutes off the time, and changes the routing completely. When I travel along it, TT keeps trying to move me back to the old road (which is blocked at both ends). I reported it 12 months ago, but how do i find if its in the latest maps?

There is a new map released, but whilst it has a number, they do not quote the date which i feel is unacceptable.

The threads i have read about blocking roads is scary. When i watched the TT web movie trying to sell the product to me, that put me off immediately, as the guy was blocking a short term road work.

What I need from mapshare is
1. Trust. Verified should mean verified.
2. The ability to add roads and junctions.
3. The ability to mark dotted roads as in use, and to name them.
4. The base map to include planned roads, like the OS maps and my Phillips road atlas do.

Andy_P

Fellwalker · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

Thanks Andy

Thought so for 1 & 2. 3 is better than i had expected.
4 relates to the core map, and not to the mapshare facility...

It strikes me that if TT recorded a log, 1 could be done. That is one of the things I miss from Copilot, along with more intelligent zooming whilst driving.

I have just checked the Teleatlas web site, and the two amendments I sent to them have not been amended on their on-line map. Navtew is correct. It does not bode well for staying with TomTom.

bmw307 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 26, 2007 Posts: 2

Take a look at the "TT Verified" MapShare update to the A34 next to Drayton, Oxfordshire (just south of Abingdon).
3 short sections "closed to traffic" northbound.
It made a real mess of my trip from Basingstoke to Bicester. Instead of A303, A34, A41 (all dual carriageway) it sent me A33, M4, A404(M), M40, A41. 10 twisty miles and 20 minutes further.
Think what's happening to the traffic from Southampton to Birmingham and beyond!
Hmmm.
I got TT because of MapShare. Now I can't trust it ... and that's only after 5 days!!
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Oldboy · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:37 am Post subject:

Are they doing Roadworks?

Can Traffic still travel that way? Albeit restricted?

If the road is restricted then surely this is a case for TMC Traffic to kick in, not Mapshare. Confused

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Andy_P · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject:

Whenever I do a Map Share correction, I get a pop-up window on the TomTom screen asking "Is this change PERMANENT and vailid for normal passenger cars?" or words to that effect".

I have always agreed to it, don't know what happens if you don't.

Tim Buxton · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

Oldboy · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject:

I've noticed that quite a lot of the Motorway Service Areas now have the pink dotted line.

No more tea breaks then. Shocked

It begs the question ......WHY?
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Andy_P · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:

I've been wondering about this ever since you mentioned that the "dotted line" roads have the attributes set to "no traffic" in both directions (like the block/unblock in Mapshare).
On my colour scheme (GB New) those roads/tracks are actually shown as GREEN dotted, not red, so I'd just never thought they might be no through roads, I just thought it signified "small ones" that don't really go anywhere (like a service station for example).

Unlike some people, it seems, I usually don't have problems being able to navigate to places on these tracks. All that happens is that it usually says "you have reached your destination" as I pull of the main road onto them. I'd never thought about it because it always seems to say that very early anyway even on normal roads.

So, what's the official definition of this type of road? Is it "unadopted" I think they call them? I agree there seems to be no reason why they should be shown as not passable to traffic.
Should we be "opening" them whenever we see them?

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