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francalondon
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Help would be appreciated... Reply with quote

Hi, not sure where else to put this, so I'm guessing in this board, since it relates to GPS theft. I'm a design student doing some research on portable sat-nav systems for cars, specifically the TomTom.

After this holiday ends, I'm going to start a project in my design class, where my objective is to design and make (either a protoype or real thing) an alternative TomTom holder so that it does not attach to the windscreen and leave the marks that can lead to it getting stolen.

Anything anyone can think of that would help me would be greatly appreciated, such as useful sites or statistics, ideas for other places in the car I could design the attachment for, and so on. Very Happy
Or even stories of your own cars being broken in to as a result of those marks or the holder being visible in your windscreen.

I'm also going to be getting in touch with my local police during this project, but I need quite a bit of background research on the issue before I start making any phone calls.

Thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Help would be appreciated... Reply with quote

francalondon wrote:
Hi, not sure where else to put this, so I'm guessing in this board, since it relates to GPS theft. I'm a design student doing some research on portable sat-nav systems for cars, specifically the TomTom.

After this holiday ends, I'm going to start a project in my design class, where my objective is to design and make (either a protoype or real thing) an alternative TomTom holder so that it does not attach to the windscreen and leave the marks that can lead to it getting stolen.

Anything anyone can think of that would help me would be greatly appreciated, such as useful sites or statistics, ideas for other places in the car I could design the attachment for, and so on. Very Happy
Or even stories of your own cars being broken in to as a result of those marks or the holder being visible in your windscreen.

I'm also going to be getting in touch with my local police during this project, but I need quite a bit of background research on the issue before I start making any phone calls.

Thanks Very Happy


Try looking in Maplin Electronics etc., for alternative mounts Idea

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=218542#&doy=2m8
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have moved this thread to an area where it should get more views/ comments.
You could have a look at the Brodit range as the type of mount you are talking about does exist with a very extensive array of products covered, the list of vehicle adaptors/ clips must cover nearly every car ever built!
I recently modified the 720 mount to free up space on the windscreen - see Here - Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Relates to GPS theft. Reply with quote

As this thread was started by the concern about satnav theft.
I heard a report on Radio 4's P.M. programme yesterday about the epidemic of satnav thefts Exclamation Do have a listen, it has some good advice at the end of the report Exclamation

A crucial thing is not to set your home address to your home, because someone on holiday had their satnav stolen. The thieves then navigated their way straight to the front door and stole another car worth £20,000 Shocked

So my suggestion is, set your home address to a nearby road, and if your system has an option for pin code activation, use it Exclamation Although I'm not sure if clever thieves with technical know-how can get round this Question

The most obvious thing with portable systems is to remove it and the mount and cigarette lighter power adaptor, Either locking them in the boot or taking them with you Exclamation


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?radio4/pm_mon

The satnav story starts around 48 mins in Exclamation

Please move this to another place or duplicate it elsewhere if necessary for more publicity Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A crucial thing is not to set your home address to your home, because someone on holiday had their satnav stolen. The thieves then navigated their way straight to the front door and stole another car worth £20,000


Personally i've always suspected this is a paranoid myth. A few years ago a "scam" was doing the rounds where a scam survey would ring you at work. One of the questions would be "what is your address and postcode so we can send you a prize for participating"? As soon as you gave it to them a man with a van would drive to your house and rob it. It was of course a myth. See CLICK HERE

One problem with both myths is that would a burglar really drive miles to your home on the off chance that no-one was around? Just because you are away from home with a sat nav doesn't mean the house is empty / brimming with jewellery waiting to be stolen. The time would be better spent casing a more local home.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulB2005 wrote:
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A crucial thing is not to set your home address to your home, because someone on holiday had their satnav stolen. The thieves then navigated their way straight to the front door and stole another car worth £20,000


Personally i've always suspected this is a paranoid myth. A few years ago a "scam" was doing the rounds where a scam survey would ring you at work. One of the questions would be "what is your address and postcode so we can send you a prize for participating"? As soon as you gave it to them a man with a van would drive to your house and rob it. It was of course a myth. See CLICK HERE

One problem with both myths is that would a burglar really drive miles to your home on the off chance that no-one was around? Just because you are away from home with a sat nav doesn't mean the house is empty / brimming with jewellery waiting to be stolen. The time would be better spent casing a more local home.


Well in this case it happened and if they saw a family get out of the car, they made a good assumption Idea

Remember thieves are not as dumb as we might think Exclamation It is a fact that they target pinic/beauty spots, places where people park for outdoor activities etc., knowing that cars will be easy prey Exclamation

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well in this case it happened and if they saw a family get out of the car, they made a good assumption


Maybe it's happened once, but i don't think it's worth worrying about. What if they assumed wrong and there were people still at home? They might have travelled 50, 100 or 200 miles to go to a house and find it occupied at all times. Someone might be "sitting" the house with the family dog(s).....

As i said easier pickings round the corner....

Anyway this is besides the point. If no-one left their sat nav in their car - no matter how well hidden - then it's not a problem.
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