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Using Map Share to block or unblock a road
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nigel42 wrote:
But when it comes to downloading them only 1 gets sent!! (via a PC using xp TT home 2.0)
If you mean it downloads only 1 item, then it is correct.

It actually downloads all the files needed to bring it up to the current status it 1 go. This could be 1 new correction, or hundreds.

It then re-writes the corrections files in the Map Folder.

Having said that only certain corrections are made available through the updating process.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nigel42 wrote:
I then test out the corrections by planning a route and guess what....
TT wants to make a right turn in Rozel road!!!!

Any ideas would be welcome Confused
As I said only certain types of corrections can be made available immediately. This is because the Map Data would need to be recompiled, and the Device hasn't got the capability to do that.

The corrections you can make on the 1st Page; (Un)block roads, street names and POI changes are those that can have immediate effect.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, well at least now I know!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is one of my worries about Mapshare... how many villagers that have been content with submitting non-existent speed cameras are now going to try to block off their roads completely to other users?

How true this is.I heard that the residents here actually asked that there village was excluded from public data. My example is Alfriston in East Sussex near me, TomTom continually tries to send you everyway but through it.
Accepted, in summertime it does get hammered with touring coaches that just block the whole place up. I suppose it helps the cause when residents are ex Chancellor of the exchequer etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My example is Alfriston in East Sussex near me, TomTom continually tries to send you everyway but through it.
Accepted, in summertime it does get hammered with touring coaches that just block the whole place up. I suppose it helps the cause when residents are ex Chancellor of the exchequer etc.
You can always use MapShare to 'unblock' any 'blocked' roads. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO-GO-910 wrote:
My example is Alfriston in East Sussex near me, TomTom continually tries to send you everyway but through it.

No problem on my 720 with W&CE v710.1632 or WE v705.1480, with all map updates except "Corrections reported by some".

I went to "(Un)block road" and could find no blocked roads around Alfriston, and if I "Prepare route" from Berwick to Seaford, using "Fastest route" it takes me through Alfriston High Street. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try doing it Anita coming from polegate on the A27. It used to be ok but since i got my 910 (when they were first released) it always wants to turn me left down The st to go to seven sisters and into Seaford or if i bypass that then left down by the Sussex Ox.
This is with Fastest route planned.
I realise that this is more of a routing issue than a deliberate hijack but peoples concerns are valid.
Maybe thats the fastest Route but as locals we would beg to differ, onto Drusillas is the go.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO-GO-910 wrote:
I heard that the residents here actually asked that there village was excluded from public data. My example is Alfriston in East Sussex near me, TomTom continually tries to send you everyway but through it.

I took this to mean you thought the road through Alfriston had been blocked.

It's the usual story of using local knowledge if you have it. If not, a satnav will get you to your destination, but possibly not by the same route a local would use.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Anita, Sorry for that it is a little confusing on my part.
I sort of got sidetracked between the real issue of what Alfriston residents DID try to do, my 910 woes and what could happen if they give Mr H... a TomTom. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you get them to include major Dual carriage ways? The A5 just north of Tamworth was rerouted and converted to a Dual Carriage way to the A38 in 2005, and the latest maps still tell you that you are driving through a field!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO-GO-910 wrote:
Try doing it Anita coming from polegate on the A27. It used to be ok but since i got my 910 (when they were first released) it always wants to turn me left down The st to go to seven sisters and into Seaford or if i bypass that then left down by the Sussex Ox.
This is with Fastest route planned.
I realise that this is more of a routing issue than a deliberate hijack but peoples concerns are valid.
Maybe thats the fastest Route but as locals we would beg to differ, onto Drusillas is the go.


On my TT720 with MapShare set to use only my own corrections and those verified by TomTom I get routed through the centre of Alfriston when I set a route from Polegate to East Blatchington (estimated driving time: 24 minutes). My guess is that you have used some faulty corrections from other MapShare users which has caused the rerouting. If you stick to the TomTom verified corrections you will in most cases avoid this kind of problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giblets46 wrote:
How do you get them to include major Dual carriage ways? The A5 just north of Tamworth was rerouted and converted to a Dual Carriage way to the A38 in 2005, and the latest maps still tell you that you are driving through a field!


All you can do is report it for inclusion in a later map release.
Map Share only allows minimal changes to traffic direction and road names on the EXISTING map layout. There's nothing you can do to actually change the roads seen on the map.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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giblets46 wrote:
How do you get them to include major Dual carriage ways? The A5 just north of Tamworth was rerouted and converted to a Dual Carriage way to the A38 in 2005, and the latest maps still tell you that you are driving through a field!


All you can do is report it for inclusion in a later map release.
Map Share only allows minimal changes to traffic direction and road names on the EXISTING map layout. There's nothing you can do to actually change the roads seen on the map.


2005 Exclamation Just how long does it take for verifiers to get around to this Question
Does the road mentioned exist on road atlases Question
Is there any collaboration with local authorities, or is there publicly available data to verify roads, without the need to physically check them Question
In the 21st. century there must be an easier and quicker way, surely Idea
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amalteser wrote:
2005 Exclamation Just how long does it take for verifiers to get around to this Question
Does the road mentioned exist on road atlases Question
Is there any collaboration with local authorities, or is there publicly available data to verify roads, without the need to physically check them Question
In the 21st. century there must be an easier and quicker way, surely Idea

One thing you can do is to check the Google map on the camera submissions page. If Google have the updated road, there's a good chance it will be on the next TomTom map (though no guarantee). At present both my 7.10 map and Google show the A5 as a D/C but South of Tamworth. Is this correct?

I believe Teleatlas (who TomTom get their data from) prefer surveying the road itself as it could be different to even the best plans available.

Two years is a long time to wait for a major road to be added though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there, yeh it is dual carriageway south of Tamworth, but also north of Tamworth all the way to the A38, they re routed it too.
I checked on Google maps, and the map is the same as the Tomtom map, but if you have it in Hydrid mode you can see how the dual carriageway has been re routed away from the original A5.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=52.63249,-1.783905&spn=0.023025,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=0
Interestingly, Streepmap have the ordanance survey maps online (which Tomtom Supposedly use), and they have this road correctly routed.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=414500&Y=304500&A=Y&Z=3
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