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murts
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: How is my Maths ? Reply with quote

How's my Maths ?

Assuming
40k average per download for Tom Tom Traffic
£7.50 per MB for Vodafone PAYG

4 * 40k per hour = 160k per hour
1024k / 160k = 6.4 hours per MB = 384 minutes per MB
£7.50 per MB = £7.50 for 384 minutes = 1.95 per minute = £1.17 per hour.

So about £40 per year for the subscription and
£1.17 per hour to run.......

RDS-TMC for me I think.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or go for t-mobile or orange with flat rate gprs
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want, my phone has GPRS counters which I run on orange PAYG which I am quite happy to reset. I've trialled the traffic for 1 week so far and it's been quite cheap. I have generally been doing my initial traffic info and then one update during the journey
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: How is my Maths ? Reply with quote

When I have tried the service I get on average 100KB per hour when set to an update of every 15 Mins, not always this high but its a good average figure to work with.

murts wrote:
RDS-TMC for me I think.

Best of British - to be honest it doesn't work in large portions of the country, we await the new receivers some time in the near future then the situation can be re-evaluated, at the moment the only reliable traffic is via GPRS - Mike
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really want RDS-TMC as I don't want wires all over the place, also some (Garmin) have to be plugged into the cig lighter just for good measure.

My main reason for wanting a Sat Nav is the bluetooth and traffic.

I don't want to start having to change my PAYG number and wont pay over £1 an hour for updates.

Bit stuck really.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

t-mobile is one pound a day and you could port your number over to them
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not too bad, capped at £1 a day, I'll have a look into that, time to swap number etc.... Cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC Radio 5 Live (MW 693 & 909) traffic news at 15 minutes after and 15 before the hour, comes free with my fitted radio and it's as up to date as the TT Traffic via GPRS. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
BBC Radio 5 Live (MW 693 & 909) traffic news at 15 minutes after and 15 before the hour, comes free with my fitted radio and it's as up to date as the TT Traffic via GPRS. Wink
I listened to the 5.30pm report. It just mentioned problems on the M25 and something near Reading. No mention of the problems on the M6 and M62 problems I hit coming home :D
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did say 15 past and 15 to - usually on the hour and half hour they give only a brief report, sometimes maybe even only one problem. Like the two TT methods, they are reliant upon information supplied to them, so all three are wrong at times. But .... UNLIKE the TT systems, Radio 5 is FREE. Until the RDS-TMC or TT Traffic get reliable and accurate (and don't get me wrong, I'd desperately, desperately, love to use RDS-TMC), I'm not prepared to pay for unreliable information if I can get the same for nothing!
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
I did say 15 past and 15 to
Sorry Embarassed

Slightly o/t, but I recently bought a (used) VW Golf, and read about the TIM button on the radio, which can hold the previous 8 traffic reports it received. Unfortunately this only works when the radio is on, and I don't think it's capable of saving simultaneous traffic reports either. I'll be trotting off to one of the Golf forums about this I think
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it!!! At last the explanation of why all the B*********** BlackVWGolfs are charging round blasting all the rest of us off the road - They're trying to catch up with the last eight bluddy traffic reports!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

murts wrote:
That's not too bad, capped at £1 a day, I'll have a look into that, time to swap number etc.... Cheers.


but then if you're using it most days then you're looking at about £20 a month + calling credit - a contract could be cheaper ;)

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: How is my Maths ? Reply with quote

murts wrote:
How's my Maths ?

Assuming
40k average per download for Tom Tom Traffic
£7.50 per MB for Vodafone PAYG

4 * 40k per hour = 160k per hour
1024k / 160k = 6.4 hours per MB = 384 minutes per MB
£7.50 per MB = £7.50 for 384 minutes = 1.95 per minute = £1.17 per hour.

So about £40 per year for the subscription and
£1.17 per hour to run.......

RDS-TMC for me I think.


Maths are OK, but your concept is wrong. You have carried out the calculation on the basis that you are downloading GPRS information continuously, whereas in fact this is not the case!

I download GPRS data every 15 minutes, and the updates take only seconds. I did a 3 hour trip to Nottingham and the debit from my Orange PAYG was 30p. This works out a 10p per hour, or if you like 2.5p per update.
Thats good value bearing in mind that RDS is probably more accurate than TMC (if you can receive it!).
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