Red light camera conundrum

[Skippy]

[alix776]

maybe one for a blue light trained driver to answer. but i would think it would for saftey as someone could walk out eaiser

the guy should have moved out of the way

ive done it in the truck often enough including in london and never receiveed a ticket yet

all the authories would have to do is contact the ambulance or police or fire authorities to verify whether or not a ev tripping the camera or a veihicle had to get out of the way
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[DennisN]

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Tha's talking funny for a Bristol lad!

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[theripper]

As a fire service driver I can tell you that
1. We are allowed to break the speed limits if on a call
2. Red traffic lights can be treated as a give way sign - so we should slow down and only proceed if the road is clear.
3. We are not meant to use bus lanes because if you think about it we could get boxed in if something is parked and there is traffic in the outside lane, we are more likely to move over to the opposite carriageway and drive against the oncoming traffic(carefully).
4. We are not meant to push other motorists through red lights, again better to use wrong side of road and then pull back to left.
theripper

[GPS_fan]

Interesting points, Ripper.

I think I'd already pointed out the point about emergency vehicles viewing red lights as 'give way' instead of 'stop'.

Do you know, though, where we may obtain the definitive answer to this question?

Surely, according to your post, the traffic officer who came up behind me should have known the rules just as well as you, if not better since traffic officers are responsible for enforcing traffic laws and regulations.
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[Skippy]

[theripper]

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Those points were the rules that I was taught when doing my driving course a long time ago
I agree that the traffic officer should probably have known better than to try to push you through the lights but then again in London I have watched the police in transits going through red lights without even touching their brakes(one rule for them another for us). The only place you would get a definitive answer is your local police or SC partnership.

If we get caught on a gatso the London Fire Brigade deal with it if it actually comes through, I think that the people checking the photos at the traffic dept in Catford usually bin them if they see our blue beacons flashing.
I know they do check them because my station got a b******ing once because as I drove past the gatso one of the crew put his head out of the window and smiled while it took the photo- he couldn't even say it wasn't him
theripper

[theripper]

Further to this topic I'm not sure whether it is Londonwide or just Lewisham council but if they catch you on CCTV stopping in the yellow hatched areas at junctions you also get a ticket in the post. - This happened about a year ago to one of the blokes at work, It turned up on his doorstep with a copy of the photo(could have been a bit naughty if he had been up to no good) and a request for £80
theripper

[theripper]

[quote="alix776"]ive done it in the truck often enough including in london and never receiveed a ticket yet

I can guarantee that if you even pull into the bus lane outside Lewisham Hospital in South London to overtake a vehicle that is turning right you do get a ticket.
theripper

[GPS_fan]

[theripper]

I've never done it but I know a driver about 15 years ago who took a turntable ladder down a narrow street and took the wing mirrors off every car on both sides of the road. All it means is lots of paperwork
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[999tommo]

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I eventually found this thread. It turns out that I hadn't renewed my subscription, so I didn't have access to the 'members only forums'.

Anyway...

As I understand it, the sensors for red light cameras are loops built into the road surface, these are usually identified by tar line boxes on the road surface. The sensors are only operational for a few seconds after the red light comes on (don't know exactly how many seconds). So if you are stationary at a red light and Police, or whatever emergency service comes flying up behind with blues and twos, whilst there is nothing compelling you to go through a red light, it is good practice to attempt to get out the way, if it is possible. This may involve going over the sensor and then activating the camera. Depending on how long after the red light became red, the Police vehicle may not activate the sensor (again I don't know how many seconds they are active for). So it quite possible for you to be flashed getting out of the way of a Police vehicle, which does not trigger the camera, therefore not giving you the chance of a photograph to prove your case.

I'm sure that if you received a N.I.P., a covering letter explaining the circumstances, could be investigated and proved to be true. I think if this happened to me, I would be tempted to contact the Police as soon after the incident as I could to have it logged, in case the paperwork does come through the door. At least then you may have a reference number or incident number to back you up. The N.I.P. has to be delivered within 14 days, so if you receive nothing by then (assuming you are the registrered keeper of the vehicle you are driving) then you cannot be prosecuted.

I hope this helps, although I know there are still very grey areas.
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