910 Hard Disk Wanted - Breaking For Spares.

SpeedCam

:D I've been interested in adding a hard disk to my 710, as a result I've just spent an hour dismantled my 710 to see if it is technically possible.

Well the good news is appears to be possible, there is a ribbon cable with an SD socket attached, this needs replacing with the 910 version.

So if anyone has a 910 that has failed or been dropped that they would be prepared to sell me the spare part, please PM me with details and a price.

Just so others know the x10 is reasonably easy to dismantle, the most difficult part is getting access to the SD/HD socket and battery as these are located behind the screen. This needs to be removed and is clipped in, initially it seemed impossible to remove the screen, the retaining tabs need bending and the the screen comes out.

It would be interesting to see if TomTom would sell the HD cable as a spare part, but based on their lack of ability to answer easy support questions I'm not going to even try.

mikealder · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject:

SpeedCam, You seem to have a fixation with the 910 device, if you really want a 910 go and buy one. This way you will have the cable and the TTS functionality you so desire. Trying to convert a device that is not a 910 to achieve the same capability will not work it is the hardware that is required not simply the HDD from a 910 - Mike

SpeedCam · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject:

Mike,

You seem to be very keen on protecting TomTom, and I'm sorry you are incorrect in your assumption that it is not possible to convert a 510/710, have you actually dismantled a x10, I have?

All mass produced consumer products are generally designed using a basic common shell, and additional items added to produce enhanced models, this is how the x10 range is designed. The only difference betwen the 510/710 and the 910 is the internal ribbon cable to the storage unit either SD or HD. The SD version has only a few connections whereas the HD version has multiple connections.

The reason why I'm trying to do this is due to cost & functionallity, why should I have to buy a 910 if I already own a 710?

I have far more experience of GPS products / industry than you, I was a founder member of this WEB site . . . the site was created / formed because a group of like minded people were trying to push the functionallity of the very early GPS hardware & software (before TomTom Navigator 1)

The site now seems to be intent on restricting forum discussions and protecting TomTom. I appreciate that there is a fine line in terms of software piracy, but moding products should be of interest. As yet I have never seen a negative reveiw of any TomTom product on this site, however the x10 mount, TMC receiver products are clearly VERY VERY poor products.

mikealder · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject:

SpeedCam · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject:

What am I doing that is illegal, taking something apart and then reassembling it is not illegal? The item has not changed in anyway?

In you own reply you have suppossidly done exactly the same, by default you have broken the license agreement which is illegal ! !

I have NEVER NEVER asked or suggested that I can or want to copy any software?

mikealder · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject:

Darren · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

Wildoat · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 48

All seems a bit tense this discussion but I can understand a desire to take to bits / rebuild / improve - I have recently just taken to bits a pvr and upgraded the hard disk from 160gb to 400gb partly because I could not 100% because I needed to!!

Goodluck Speedcam and apologies to Mike for not supporting.

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m623d · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 191

Yep, I'm with speedcam on this one too.

OK, copying software is illegal, but taking a unit apart and fitting a hard drive isn't.

I think this website has become a little too commercialised, Like Speedcam said, in the early days it was about pushing the bounderies of GPS (I was an early GPS user) and I think it is a shame we cannot discuss this anymore.
Dont get me wrong, this forum is very useful, but it could be SO much more if the Mods weren't always thinking of pleasing TomTom etc
Its a pity it isn't more independant.

Good luck Speedcam
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Darren · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

Whoa there. As I explained in my reply to Speedcam, stripping units isn't frowned upon, indeed it is something we like doing ourselves and we couldn't care less what TomTom, Navman or anyone else think about that. See our Inside the GO910 article for example.

The issue arose as there was a suspicion that this was leading back to circumventing the licence restriction of TTS on the 910. As I said, if this was unjustified then we apologise.

The moderators are there to keep discussion legal but we have no issue with users wanting to crack open the case of their unit to modify or just have a nosey! Our discussions on getting TomTom's cr*p TMC receiver to work is evidence of that surely? On occasion we get it wrong, we're not perfect but we try Smile

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m623d · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 191

Darren · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

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