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Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Bath, UK
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject:
oh...................doh!
So do i assume there is no Kate based ogg file for UK cams? _________________ Go 720 v8.351 GPS v1.20 Boot 5.5120
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Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 am Post subject:
No there isn't.
We made those specifically to fill the need for some km/h warnings, using the "Kate" text to speech voice on a TomTom Go 910.
But as you have a 720 and a 920 and you only want to use the Kate version without the extra chime at the front, there's nothing to stop you typing in your own warnings for her to speak.
Go through the same menus as you are doing already (Manage POIs/ Warn when near/ etc....) but on the screen after the one where you select the distance, select "type in your own warning"
You can then write any text you like.
That's how the "Kate" km/h ones were done.
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Bath, UK
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:03 am Post subject:
Andy, thanks for your suggestion.
I was already there typing in as i read it.
If i could be allowed to make a criticism/suggestion or two.
I tried using the option, full spoken warning, if the files were named with a better description, this would work perfectly. Is there any reason to have the files named as they are right now, why not just gatso 30 etc, then they would be read aloud perfectly with this option.
Secondly there is lots of information on the camera files and how to install and select voices etc, but it just seems to have got a little fragmented over time by different options and versions etc. It would really benefit from someone going through it all and maybe tidying up where you are directed by each of the different pages.
Please accept this as helpful criticism from someone who has just tried to negotiate there way through all this. _________________ Go 720 v8.351 GPS v1.20 Boot 5.5120
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Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:44 am Post subject:
mrfreeze wrote:
I tried using the option, full spoken warning, if the files were named with a better description, this would work perfectly. Is there any reason to have the files named as they are right now, why not just gatso 30 etc, then they would be read aloud perfectly with this option.
Because they are 'our' files and we need to identify them as such. Piracy and theft is a huge issue for us.
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Secondly there is lots of information on the camera files and how to install and select voices etc, but it just seems to have got a little fragmented over time by different options and versions etc. It would really benefit from someone going through it all and maybe tidying up where you are directed by each of the different pages.
It has only recently been re-done and is as concise as it can be given the device versions in common use today. There are many things that could benefit from a re-visit but we're only 4 people and swamped as it is. Voices was a priority so I re-wrote the entire page a few months back. What's there now is what's needed I'm afraid. _________________ Darren Griffin
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Bath, UK
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject:
Darren wrote:
mrfreeze wrote:
I tried using the option, full spoken warning, if the files were named with a better description, this would work perfectly. Is there any reason to have the files named as they are right now, why not just gatso 30 etc, then they would be read aloud perfectly with this option.
Because they are 'our' files and we need to identify them as such. Piracy and theft is a huge issue for us.
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Secondly there is lots of information on the camera files and how to install and select voices etc, but it just seems to have got a little fragmented over time by different options and versions etc. It would really benefit from someone going through it all and maybe tidying up where you are directed by each of the different pages.
It has only recently been re-done and is as concise as it can be given the device versions in common use today. There are many things that could benefit from a re-visit but we're only 4 people and swamped as it is. Voices was a priority so I re-wrote the entire page a few months back. What's there now is what's needed I'm afraid.
I understand your need for security, but simply naming the files as you do is no big security measure. Surely any pirate could simply re name them.
I am just trying to find the easiest way for me to use these files.
Can i ask,
1. If like Andy suggested i use my own custom wording (which is what i have done) will i loose these when i next copy over my next update?
2. If i decided to go down the renaming of the files so that Kate can be instructed to read full spoken instruction, would i have to just rename the ov2 file, or do i have to have the same name for the bmp files as well?
regards,
Neil _________________ Go 720 v8.351 GPS v1.20 Boot 5.5120
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Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject:
mrfreeze wrote:
I understand your need for security, but simply naming the files as you do is no big security measure. Surely any pirate could simply re name them.
Indeed so. That is just one of the many security systems in place. Indeed it's not even a security system but it's an aid and a reminder to others who come across the files as to where they came from. At the end of the day, for the majority who use them as provided with the packaged voice files they work fine.
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I am just trying to find the easiest way for me to use these files.
The easiest way would be with one of our packaged voice file sets!
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Can i ask,
1. If like Andy suggested i use my own custom wording (which is what i have done) will i loose these when i next copy over my next update?
No
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2. If i decided to go down the renaming of the files so that Kate can be instructed to read full spoken instruction, would i have to just rename the ov2 file, or do i have to have the same name for the bmp files as well?
You would have to rename both. _________________ Darren Griffin
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject:
You would have to rename all three files per speed camera category as there is the ov2 file and the two bmp files, quite a large task to perform each week so I wouldn't bother, you can still use the Kate voice for warnings if you want to.
You could even make a set of ogg audio files using the Kate voice, name those to match the POI file names and that would work. Simply feed the Line out socket from the TomTom into the PC sound card and use Audacity to edit the sounds - Mike
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Bath, UK
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject:
Ok, thanks to all for the replies.
I think i will just keep my custom wording, it seems to be the best option for me.
One last question, would you know, if once i have set it up on the 920 can i copy the files over to my 720 and is there a way of moving the custom wording over as well?
I have had a look at the files and i can't see an obvious place where it would store them.
Are they written into the ov2 file? _________________ Go 720 v8.351 GPS v1.20 Boot 5.5120
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject:
The settings are stored in the MapSettings.cfg file which lives in the specific map folder you are dealing with "Western & Central Europe" or possibly "North America"
I wouldn't advise trying to copy that file between devices as it has been known to mess up when used with different map types and differing Navcore software releases - Mike
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 186 Location: Bath, UK
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:26 am Post subject:
Mike/everyone,
Just wanted to give you feedback on that last issue.
I had completed the UK files with custom text on the wifes 920 and so i then tried lifting the mapconfig to my 720 so as not to have to type them all in again.
It worked fine, no problems or crashes.
FYI both units had same v8.302 and WCE 825 maps.
Thought i'd give it a try as i had a full backup so nothing to loose, all to gain.
Mike, hope i didn't confuse you with the maps, i am in Florida at the moment so i'm using the NA map, but the wife is on here way back to Blighty so had to get her set up with WCE map. _________________ Go 720 v8.351 GPS v1.20 Boot 5.5120
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Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:34 am Post subject:
Thanks for the confirmation, Mr Freeze...
Considering you are using the same software version and map version on both machines, I did think you would probably be OK copying the MapSettings.cfg file, but as it had been said otherwise, I didn't want to stick my head over the parapet! Glad it worked out for you!
You could even make a set of ogg audio files using the Kate voice, name those to match the POI file names and that would work. Simply feed the Line out socket from the TomTom into the PC sound card and use Audacity to edit the sounds - Mike
So you could use any recorded ogg file, and just name it the same as a POI file? So the UK voices could be used for the Europe or North America POIs by simple copying/renaming?
Whilst browsing the voices, I found some "errors" ... where's the best place to report that?
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject:
Mark its certainly possible to make your own voice files, I have done so in the past, its far from a 5 minute job though setting up the PC as a recording studio!
As for reporting any errors you have found please post them in this thread where they will be looked into - Thanks - Mike
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