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MaFt
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| RQ wrote: | | Could one provide one with a translation ! |
That picture was before he went on the moors without a hat, because when he's been on the moor without a hat, he's bound to get his death of cold, then the worms will come and eat him up (then the ducks will come and eat up the worms, then we'll come and eat up the ducks, then we shall all have eaten him up).
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RQ
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Location: Clevedon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oh Bally good show MaFt.
Wait until I tell Binky and Squiffy in the mess - they think you bounders are top hole.
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DennisN
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| dougproctor wrote: | | DennisN - is that the way they speak in Bristol now? And I remember the K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M from that good ol' Radio Luxemburgh and the 'orrible Horrace Batchelor! Memories..... |
Well doug, Horace is long dead now and that advert was last broadcast probably something like 50 or 60 years ago (before I was old enough to do the pools). His house (called Long Reach) near here has variously changed from Manor to Rest Home, Restaurant and is currently a set of Luxury Appartments (ever seen the signs "Coming soon, xx Luxury Appartments"? Don't they ever convert Spartan or Basic appartments?)
And no, that's not how they speak here - they speak funny - MaFt wouldn't be able to understand them, even I, travelled as I am, sometimes find it difficult.
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DennisN
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | | he's bound to get his death of cold. MaFt |
Sorry MaFt, "bahn" = "going". As in "Weer's tha bahn? "  (At least, so it was in Leeds - can't answer for Bradford!!)
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mikealder
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005
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Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to drag this back on topic, BUT can you have a look at exactly which camera files you have installed on the device - it is possible you still have an old version of the database installed and set to warn.
This has been seen before when users switch from using the single file to the consolodated by type database without remembering to delete the single file version first. The same will occur if you switched database to speed zoned from either single file or consolodated by type.
Plug the device into the PC, use windows explorer to view the map folder, make sure tools/ folder options view tab "hide extensions for known file types" is NOT selected. Now look closely at the files with an ov2 file extension - Mike |
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slimsta
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mike,
deffo got the correct files, used speed zoned last time and thats what i downloaded and dropped on again this time........In fact i dropped them in one at a time and as you probably know you get asked "this file already exists do you want to replace it ?" comes up, It was thirty three last time and the same again this time that was with the pmobile files included - most would say copy and paste the lot in at the same time, and all old will be replaced with latest updates, but i did do this individually thats how i know its correct and it was deffo not mobile it was "Gatso" and if my memory serves me i'm sure it was 50 mph warning, there were no road works around, "Gatso 50 mph" was what the Tom Tom told me.
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mikealder
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005
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Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| One other thing to check - have you got the TomTom supplied Speed Cameras installed/ still on the device, as the unit would be supplied with a very old (by now) database? - there are some details Here which show how to remove them, they might not be on your device, but there is no harm in checking - Mike |
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DennisN
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This is getting mysterious. Can you list all the files in your map folder for us to look at? There's a very handy utility for doing this, called DriveZ which you can download from HERE. You download it, unzip it, then double click it and select the map folder of your device, untick the box "Remove Extension", then click "Make list and put it on clipboard". Then paste that information into your post and it will show us all the files, complete with extensions, that you've got in your device's map folder.
The listing would look something like this ...
cline.dat
cname.dat
cnode.dat
faces.dat
mapinfo.dat
MapSettings.cfg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_var.bmp
pocketgps_uk_redlight.bmp
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_temp.bmp
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ov2
poi.dat
tmccodes.dat
traffic.dat
traffic.inc
Western_Europe.mms
Western_Europe.pna
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slimsta
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Hi Mike Alder and Dennis N,
Mike did as you suggested on the Tom Tom Home and everything that is in my right hand column is deffinately camera icons from here (pocketgps) so that has been checked.Nothing of old from original Tom Tom supplied
Here is a complete list of everything i have in the uk map folder, as requested by Dennis N -
Argos.bmp
Argos.ov2
Asda.bmp
Asda.ov2
ASDA_Fuel.bmp
ASDA_Fuel.ov2
B&Q.bmp
B&Q.ov2
Beefeater.bmp
Beefeater.ov2
BMW.bmp
BMW.ov2
Boots.bmp
Boots.ov2
BP.bmp
BP.ov2
Brewers_Fayre.bmp
Brewers_Fayre.ov2
Campanile.bmp
Campanile.ov2
Center_Parcs.bmp
Center_Parcs.ov2
cline.dat
cname.dat
cnode.dat
Comet.bmp
Comet.ov2
Coop_Stores.bmp
Coop_Stores.ov2
Currys.bmp
Currys.ov2
Disabled_Parking.bmp
Disabled_Parking.ov2
Doctors_Surgeries.bmp
Doctors_Surgeries.ov2
Entertainment.bmp
Entertainment.ov2
Esso.bmp
Esso.ov2
faces.dat
Food_&_Drink.bmp
Food_&_Drink.ov2
Frankie_&_Bennys.bmp
Frankie_&_Bennys.ov2
Halfords.bmp
Halfords.ov2
Harry_Ramsden.bmp
Harry_Ramsden.ov2
Harvester.bmp
Harvester.ov2
Homebase.bmp
Homebase.ov2
Horse_Racing_Course.bmp
Horse_Racing_Course.ov2
Hospital.bmp
Hospital.ov2
HSBC.bmp
HSBC.ov2
HSBC_ATM.bmp
HSBC_ATM.ov2
Jet.bmp
Jet.ov2
KFC.bmp
KFC.ov2
Kwik-Fit.bmp
Kwik-Fit.ov2
Kwiksave.bmp
Kwiksave.ov2
Little_Chef.bmp
Little_Chef.ov2
Lloyds_TSB.bmp
Lloyds_TSB.ov2
Lloyds_TSB_ATM.bmp
Lloyds_TSB_ATM.ov2
Makro.bmp
Makro.ov2
mapinfo.dat
MapSettings.cfg
Matalan.bmp
Matalan.ov2
McDonalds.bmp
McDonalds.ov2
Morrisons.bmp
Morrisons.ov2
Mothercare.bmp
Mothercare.ov2
Motorway_services.bmp
Motorway_Services.ov2
Murco.bmp
Murco.ov2
Nandos.bmp
Nandos.ov2
Next.bmp
Next.ov2
Parking.bmp
Parking.ov2
PC_World.bmp
PC_World.ov2
Pizzahut.bmp
Pizzahut.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.bmp
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_gatso_var.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_mobile_var.bmp
pocketgps_uk_mobile_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_mobile_var.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_var.bmp
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_var.ogg
pocketgps_uk_pmobile_var.ov2
pocketgps_uk_redlight.bmp
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ogg
pocketgps_uk_redlight.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_20.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_30.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_40.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_50.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_60.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_70.ov2
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.bmp
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ogg
pocketgps_uk_specs_tba.ov2
pocketgps_uk_temp.bmp
pocketgps_uk_temp.ogg
pocketgps_uk_temp.ov2
poi.dat
Post_Office.bmp
Post_Office.ov2
Public_Toilet.bmp
Public_Toilet.ov2
Pubs_general.bmp
Pubs_general.ov2
Q8.bmp
Q8.ov2
Rugby_Club.bmp
Rugby_Club.ov2
Sainsburys.bmp
Sainsburys.ov2
Shell.bmp
Shell.ov2
Showcase_Cinema.bmp
Showcase_Cinema.ov2
Tesco.bmp
Tesco.ov2
Tesco_Fuel.bmp
Tesco_Fuel.ov2
Texaco.bmp
Texaco.ov2
TGI_Fridays.bmp
TGI_Fridays.ov2
tmccodes.dat
traffic.dat
traffic.inc
Tyre_&_Exhaust.bmp
Tyre_&_Exhaust.ov2
United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland.mms
United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland.pna
United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland-5cb61efd.mac
Wacky_Warehouse.bmp
Wacky_Warehouse.ov2
Welcome_Break.bmp
Welcome_Break.ov2
Wetherspoons.bmp
Wetherspoons.ov2
WH_Smith.bmp
WH_Smith.ov2
Woolworths.bmp
Woolworths.ov2
Working_Mens_Club.bmp
Working_Mens_Club.ov2
Yates.bmp
Yates.ov2
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DennisN
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Well I hope Mike can see something here, because I cannot. There are exactly 100 POIs (with 33 pgpsw OV2s, BMPs and OGGs), which should be OK I believe. There's only one small point, which is that you don't need the two mobile variable ones "mobile_var" and "pmobile_var", which are not real camera files, but as far as I'm aware, having them in there doesn't do any harm - can't be sure as I never copy them across myself.
Back to your original questions ...
| Quote: | My questions are, Where is the information from about what Camera's are up and what cameras are not?
Who updates this and puts it into file format to be downloaded to our devices? |
You went on to say you have examples of (seeing) cameras (on the roadside) which are not shown on your TT ONE and examples of cameras showing on your ONE which you are not seeing on the road.
So I'm not sure that there is a problem! Camera information comes from members - you, me, everybody who sends in details. Those details are verified then magic wanded by (MaFt) the pgpsw team and put on the website for us to download. By the very nature of the beast, there will be new cameras out there which have not yet made it onto the database and there will be cameras recorded on the database which either are no longer there and waiting confirmation to be removed or mobile camera sites where mobile cameras have been reported in the past and where they could be next time you go along there (but you don't see them when they are somewhere else). I do believe that there are some instances when temporary cameras are put in as Gatsos, which may be the problem - they've been removed after roadworks ended and have still to be removed from the database.
Do you still have a problem or are you simply puzzled?
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Andy_P
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Location: West and Southwest London
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I think now we can't go any further until we have some specific location examples to work with from 'slimsta'...
otherwise we'll just keep going round in circles with guesswork and supposition. |
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slimsta
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I do believe that there are some instances when temporary cameras are put in as Gatsos, which may be the problem - they've been removed after roadworks ended and have still to be removed from the database. |
I believe this to be the case in this instance, i don't have specific locations as Andy_P2002 has requested to work with and agree that we'll just keep going round in circles with guesswork and supposition, unless this is closed as it is, this has been real interesting and i have learnt more, does anyone have suggestions to recording POI (CAMERAS) ?
ie the most effective / Popular ? easiest/ user friendly?
because i'm not going to let anything through the net regardless of whether its telling me its there from my Tom Tom and i can't visually see it, or i see it and its not on the Tom Tom.
Regards all and thanks for the feedback and interest
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Andy_P
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Location: West and Southwest London
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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As I said above, I think the quickest and easiest (and safest) way is to save as a favourite (Method 2 below)
| Andy_P2002 wrote: | Firstly, make a new POI category called "New Cameras" to store them in and also to send off to the PocketGPS people at the end of each month so they can add them to the master database.
Then:
Method 1 - Store straight into the New Cameras POI category
Tap to go to to Menu page 1 / Change preferences / forward arrow / Manage POI / Add POI / Scroll up or down and select category "New Cameras" / forward arrow / GPS position / then name it.
That's way too many button presses for me when driving, so:
Method 2 - Temorarily store as a Favourite
Tap screen / Add favourite / forward arrow / GPS position / name it anything (like just "30" or whatever)
Then at your leisure (i.e. not driving), copy it from the Favourites to the new POI category by:
Menu page 1 / Change preferences / forward arrow / Manage POI / Add POI / Scroll up or down and select category "New Cameras" / Favourite / select it / then name it properly.
The whole "New Cams" ov2 file can then be submitted to the database using the box on the left of the Camera Submissions page. |
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slimsta
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Many thanks will look at the instructions and toy around to see which one suits, i take it i have to delete one of my other points of interest if i have generated one called "New Cameras"? as i had 100 in this would make it 101 and therfore deleting one other out would keep it the same correct ? |
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mikealder
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Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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| DennisN wrote: | There's only one small point, which is that you don't need the two mobile variable ones "mobile_var" and "pmobile_var", which are not real camera files, but as far as I'm aware, having them in there doesn't do any harm - can't be sure as I never copy them across myself.
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If you do as Dennis suggests you will have two "spare" POI slots so you shouldn't need to remove any of the others.
I can't spot anything in the file list though, one thing that has been mentioned earlier in the thread, Have you got the Warn ONLY if POI on Route check box selected or not for each Camera POI file? - if set to unchecked you will receive more warnings from cameras on adjacent roads, the downside to checking the box means you will only ever get a warning IF you plan a route, but it does reduce spurious warnings - Mike |
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