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REDUCTION IN SPEED CAMERA DATABASE THIS MONTH
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colinm345
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: REDUCTION IN SPEED CAMERA DATABASE THIS MONTH Reply with quote

I see there seems to be a reduction in the total no of speed cameras in the latest databas by some 1000 or so and I find that strange Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a scam.

PGPS have been removing all cameras that are just empty boxes.

This way they will get more people signing up to their database and report missing cameras hoping to get a free lifetime subscription.

As the database has just about reached maturity with very few reports of new cameras, this is a way of generating more revenue.

Am I cynical? yes, but it's all true!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

technik wrote:
It's a scam.

PGPS have been removing all cameras that are just empty boxes.

This way they will get more people signing up to their database and report missing cameras hoping to get a free lifetime subscription.

As the database has just about reached maturity with very few reports of new cameras, this is a way of generating more revenue.

Am I cynical? yes, but it's all true!


I'd love to know where you dreamed this up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading this thread...
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=51277
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

technik wrote:
I was reading this thread...
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=51277


OK, so that accounts for 16 removals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Buxton wrote:
OK, so that accounts for 16 removals.


Only 984 to go! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP imagined the others then. :P
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you compare the breakdown of types with the previous month, it's probably as a result of
this thread

Link edited by Oldboy, for clarity of reading
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

previously to speed up the process of getting cameras into the database we just put mobile sites straight in but they were still classed as 'pending'.

however, now we have so many members and a good team of moderators / verifiers it's been decided to treat the mobile sites in exactly the same way as all the other cameras. i.e. we wait until a specific number of submissions are made for that area and/or the site is verified by one of us.

as many of the mobile sites were only 'pending' (i.e. only one submission, ever) they have not been released this time.

we still have their locations so they've not been 'deleted' as such, they are just awaiting verification as all the other 'pending' cameras are too.

hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:

as many of the mobile sites were only 'pending' (i.e. only one submission, ever) they have not been released this time.
MaFt


I sometimes wonder of any of our friends in blue ever stop in a layby to eat their lunch butties and then look for the location in the next release of the database.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This way they will get more people signing up to their database and report missing cameras hoping to get a free lifetime subscription.
How can people sign up to report missing cameras when they wouldn't know they were missing from the database?
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As the database has just about reached maturity with very few reports of new cameras, this is a way of generating more revenue.
Oh I see, PGPSW remove cameras so people can report them as new cameras, the first one gets free life membership. Yeah right, an ideal way of generating more revenue.

A lot of the 'cameras' removed will probably be the ones where people have reported the camera warning signs or the flashing 'Slow Down' signs.

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It's a scam.
The real scam, I believe, is where two people have apparently got together to report a non existant camera, the first reports it, the second verifies it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this quite worrying as it is a toss up wheaher to subsribe to this database or the garmin one,as I have just had a Nuvi 300 I was going with this one but now I am a little unsureas it looks like empty boxes are being deleated but what happens if they go live again Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:

however, now we have so many members and a good team of moderators / verifiers it's been decided to treat the mobile sites in exactly the same way as all the other cameras. i.e. we wait until a specific number of submissions are made for that area and/or the site is verified by one of us.

MaFt


I thought that this principle had been discussed before, and the general consensus was that it is better to have a false alert than to miss a camera out, only for a subscriber find out (too late), that it was active.
I for one don't mind how many 'false alerts' I get!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor.dowle wrote:
I thought that this principle had been discussed before, and the general consensus was that it is better to have a false alert than to miss a camera out, only for a subscriber find out (too late), that it was active.
I for one don't mind how many 'false alerts' I get!


Added as I can't edit.

If there are only 50 added thisd month and 1000 deleted, I think I will take a chance and not update this month.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must say I am miffed that the mobile camera that I reported (and caught a van ahead of me) has been removed.

I now don't know how many more are missing. I do understand the point of view that some folks may have added them for their own sakes - but I doubt it.

Don't know what to do - keep my old PGPS database or use the TT cameras which is included in TTPLUS subscription though this doesn't have mobiles. There is no point in paying additional cost for PGPS when the TT database is as good.
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