Speedcams - Mobile locations a waste of time?

algypan · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject:

As bmuskett stated about the mobile cameras on the A40 in south wales, I can assure you that at one time or another all of these sites are occupied by the camera vans and they do tend to move around a lot l

Traveller · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

I think that I would rather "drive safely" than be "shot" with a speed camera.

As someone has already said, the temporary camera alerts can be turned off. Choice is a wonderfull thing! Wink

999tommo · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject:

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"Or as a warning of erratic braking ahead"

made worse if they have tomtom of course.. he he he

sorry couldnt resist that.. swopping to the voice warnings seems to help.. at least u have an idea of what is possibly there..

far better than one of the default noises.. not so irritating either..

trog

999tommo · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

trog100 · Regular Visitor Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 195

yes definitley off topic but praps not..

i had my own kind of advanced driiving course.. he he

i earned my living driving a provincial taxi for eighteen years.. i drove in all weathers but most of all i had plenty of time to observe other peoples driving behaviour..

the old fashioned ambulances driver was pretty safe.. the term para-medic seems to have changed this thow..

the fire engine driver.. get the hell out of the way type dangerous...

the bus driver.. pretty safe they dont pull out in front of u even if they look like they are going to.. its part of the pro-driver psychology.. they are trying to control u..

the lorry driver.. safe but inconsiderate.. all he cares about is his schedule..

the white-van man.. skillfull but dangerous..

the panda car type driver.. dangerouse due to incompetence mixed with the "blue light" syndrome..

the trained patrol car driver.. dangerouse.. the training they get does not make them skillfull enough to do the things they think they can do.. arrogant and over confident in their own abilities..

women drivers.. they used to be poor but now they are at least as good as men perhaps even better..

young drivers.. skillfull but lacking anticipation and good road sense..

really old people.. slow but dangerouse at times..

taxi drivers.. i wont comment to much personal bias.. he he

it takes years of practise to become a skillfull driver no training course is going to give u that.. all it does is make u think u are a better driver than u really are which in itself is dangerous..

and after forty years of accident free driving i do not feel safe on todays roads and my biggest "hate" is roudabouts.. he he he

just my thoughts on driving and drivers dont take then too seriously.. he he

trog

999tommo · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject:

mikealder · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:

Come on chaps lets get this topic back on track - mud slinging at the Police is not the aim of this forum they have a job to do, a job at times that is not a nice one.
Quite a simple answer to this thread though, if you don't like/ want the Mobile cameras simply don't install them!
Mike

RDS · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 09, 2006 Posts: 242

At the risk of extending the thread I do feel I have a right of reply and my posts have certainly not been mud slinging at the police, just at the apparent inconsistencies within the legal system.

Firstly, I don't believe I have upset one particular group, unless 999tommo has been appointed a spokesman on behalf of a number of people it appears as if the only person to be upset is himself.

Secondly, if it was felt to be an absolute necessity that as part of driver training a driver must be able to drive at speeds at up to 159mph on motorways or 70mph in 30mph zones then the Police surely would make the appropriate arrangements ie closed roads or a test track. Basically so the general public aren't put at risk by vehicles travelling at such high speeds, particularly when driven by someone who isn't familiar with the vehicle.Clearly this so called 'vehicle familiarity action' by one particular driver was not sanctioned or authorised by his superiors.If it had this would have been used in his defence.

Finally, while your decision to support a colleague maybe understandable a BBC R5 Live phone-in the day after the officer in question was discharged received calls from other serving police drivers who took the opposite view to yours.

Traveller · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject:

At the risk of perpetuating this argument I would like to point out that the law ia the law and exceeding the speed limit is a criminal offence irrespective of whether the offender is a police officer, prime minister or God. We are constantly reminded that "speed kills" so get off your high horse.

If I shot someone would that be ok simply because I am trained to shoot to kill? I think not!

A police officer breaking the law is the worst kind of criminal given that ignorance is no defence. Twisted Evil

trog100 · Regular Visitor Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 195

we are verging on the political here aint we.. but the very subject of speed/safety camaras is politcal..

they aint called safety cameras for nothing and some attempts have been made to made speed camera detection devices against the law..

"If I shot someone would that be ok simply because I am trained to shoot to kill? I think not!"

that depends who u shoot.. where u are and what u are.. but it could be okay or it could not..

there aint no answer to any of this stuff is there.. each camp has its own viewpoint and from where they sit it all makes sense..

i hope this thread dont get closed but lets not fall out tooo much.. he he he

trog

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