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lydiachris
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: TomTom GO 910 .mp3 Player Limitations...? Reply with quote

Hi there.

I've been busily ripping my cd's to mp3 format using Windows Media PLayer and Sonic Stage (Software made by Sony for use with mp3/mini disc player, rips cd's great!)

Anyway i've been using the 128kbps quality and ripping entire albums along with artist, genre and title names.

I've used TomTom HOME to upload my mp3 files to my GO 910.

I've got about 3000 Tracks ripped so far, totalling about 11GB, but my GO 910 will not recognise over 2279 files.

Has anyone else found this??? Or am i doing something wrong?
Perhaps theres another limitation regarding how many different artists or genre's ect.. Question Question Rolling Eyes

I would greatly appreciate a reply from someone who knows, and not a reply from someone saying TomTom HOME is rubbish ect... blah!
Thats not really an answer to my question Confused

I would greatly appreciate a reply,
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: TomTom GO 910 .mp3 Player Limitations...? Reply with quote

lydiachris wrote:
Hi there.

I've been busily ripping my cd's to mp3 format using Windows Media PLayer and Sonic Stage (Software made by Sony for use with mp3/mini disc player, rips cd's great!)

Anyway i've been using the 128kbps quality and ripping entire albums along with artist, genre and title names.

I've used TomTom HOME to upload my mp3 files to my GO 910.

I've got about 3000 Tracks ripped so far, totalling about 11GB, but my GO 910 will not recognise over 2279 files.

Has anyone else found this??? Or am i doing something wrong?
Perhaps theres another limitation regarding how many different artists or genre's ect.. Question Question Rolling Eyes

I would greatly appreciate a reply from someone who knows, and not a reply from someone saying TomTom HOME is rubbish ect... blah!
Thats not really an answer to my question Confused

I would greatly appreciate a reply,
Cheers,

lydiachris


Nota lot to go on here! First of all, what does 'doesnt recognise' mean. Does it mean you cant see them at all, or that it wont play them, saying they arent music files? Are they on the disc for sure? Is there a pattern to what it will and will not recognise? For example, if it recognises a track from an album does it recognise all the other tracks? Does it just recognise the first X and then no others? is is tracks ripped after or before a certain date? is it just recognising a few tracks you didnt rip using those programs you mention? Or only files you transferred using drag and drop and not 'Home'?
Is it not recognising tracks with a file name longer than 'X' characters? (you did say you were ripping with a name made up of album, artist, genre..could be quite long!

Do these MP3's play on your PC?

Do the files end with .mp3 or something else?

Do they end with ."mp3.mp3" (make sure 'show file extensions for known file types' is ticked, this will show you....if so maybe the TT doesnt like that?

HTH to get you started.

Oh, one more thing, did you try a reset?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there, thanks for your reply.

Firstly, Yes i've tried a reset, didn't work.

Secondly, what I mean by "doesn't recognise" is that the mp3 files are on the go 910 HDD but when I go to TomTom Jukebox, it only finds (when it's searching for the "songs") 2279 and there is 2939 songs on the HDD.

Yes, the mp3's work on the pc, I can play them from the GO 910 and open the mp3's on the pc's harddrive.

All the files end in .mp3,

Any ideas???!!! I've just reset my TomTom using Restore Factory Settings in menu 7/7, i'll try adding the mp3's again.

Is there ay easier way of putting the mp3 fils onto the tomtom go 910 to bypass the TomTom HOME "clicking of each file" then installing them? A copy/cut and paste into th mp3 folder would be easier, can you do that?

Let me know,

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lydiachris wrote:
Is there ay easier way of putting the mp3 fils onto the tomtom go 910 to bypass the TomTom HOME "clicking of each file" then installing them? A copy/cut and paste into the mp3 folder would be easier, can you do that?
The copy in Windows Explorer is method I use as it is much faster, to work out the file structure have a look at a few files you have already transfered - it makes the transfer of music much faster - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike, can I ask how many mp3 files you have currently installed onto your go 910? Is there a limit??!!

I tried just copy/pasting mp3 files into the "mp3" folder on the go 910 and it did not recognise any of the files, so what your saying is,

Create folders in the mp3 folder on the go 910, lets say I was putting Queen mp3 files onto it.

Firslty you would create a "queen" folder as thats the artist, the inside that folder you would create another folder for the albulm title i.e, "Greatest Hits I" Then inside that, you would place the mp3 files from that albulm?

Am I correct??

Another question, how on earth do you delete certain mp3 tracks via tomtom home? Youc an't can you?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have anywhere near that amount of mp3 files loaded 500 tops (I had lots more until I found out what the Delete button does in the home application - not used it since, as it wipes out the lot!!)
Not too sure about a limit as I only load what I like on the 910 which keeps the qty down, the only way to delete individual tracks is via File Explorer - As far as I know.

Your file structure looks OK to me, although is all of the information filled in for each track - if not the tracks seem to appear in the artist list? - I have a number of band recordings (live) that refuse to display correctly, but when you find them they play fine.

- this is what I would use TomTom/ mp3/ Queen/ Greatest Hits/ then then music tracks go into this last folder. - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lydiachris. On your ripper, have you set up the Tags properly and renamed the individual tracks or are they simply track 01, 02 etc? Browsing by track does not work properly on most players unless the basic fields are completed. BTW does the 910 display cover art?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mullet wrote:
BTW does the 910 display cover art?
No it does not, you can display the cover art in the picture viewer but it is not available within the mp3 player section of the device, lets just remember its a sat nav unit first and foremost - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lydiachris wrote:
Hi there, thanks for your reply.

Firstly, Yes i've tried a reset, didn't work.

Secondly, what I mean by "doesn't recognise" is that the mp3 files are on the go 910 HDD but when I go to TomTom Jukebox, it only finds (when it's searching for the "songs") 2279 and there is 2939 songs on the HDD.

Yes, the mp3's work on the pc, I can play them from the GO 910 and open the mp3's on the pc's harddrive.

All the files end in .mp3,

Any ideas???!!! I've just reset my TomTom using Restore Factory Settings in menu 7/7, i'll try adding the mp3's again.

Is there ay easier way of putting the mp3 fils onto the tomtom go 910 to bypass the TomTom HOME "clicking of each file" then installing them? A copy/cut and paste into th mp3 folder would be easier, can you do that?

Let me know,

lydiachris


Ah, when you said "will not recognise over 2279 files" I thought you meant that of the 3,000ish you had added there were 2,279 it didnt recognise, not that that was the max it would show!

One thing that occurs to me, could it be that the track at 2279 or more likely 2280 has some special characters in its name which is screwing up the display? Try deleting that track specifically (via explorer) and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 1334 MP3 files on my 910, the 910 will "find" all 1334 songs when it first looks at them, but when you start playing the songs it suddenly says there are only 1199 songs!

Interestingly this is almost exactly a loss of 10% of my songs, could this be related to the bug that adds approximately 10% to the yardage for the POI warnings when you select the warning to amend it (i.e set warning to 300 yards, go back to adjust warning, distance now showing 328 yards)

I am also still having the error on playback of MP3's, the pattern I've found is this.

Switch 910 on after either a soft reset or connection to PC and play MP3's, all will play fine. Resume MP3's on next switch on and most times will get error message "the was an error during audio playback" after the first song (pressing skip will often get the player working fine again for that instance only, or sometimes I need to press pause/play to get the first track to repeat, then all plays well till next time, when quick fixes need to be repeated).

I have also found associated problems with volume level, after connecting to PC/soft reset, 70% volume gives an adequate level. After using the MP3 player, on switching on for the 2nd time the volume is much quieter and I have to increase the level to 100% to achieve the same level as before.

I have emailed Tomtom customer support in a hope that they will look at these bugs and provide a fix in future software updates, as it is really proving to be very buggy.

Has anyone else noticed that after upgrading to 6.12 that they get occasionally on start up a tip screen displayed even though "show tips" is not selected?

I also have the problem with the lack of audible POI warnings if the same type POI follows another, unless a navigation instruction falls in between. Problems with the bluetooth connection where sometimes the tomtom would open a GPRS connection on it's own and download something resulting in charges on my phone bill, this happens with both a SE T610 and Motorola L6, only fix I've found is to re-pair my phone and not set up the internet connection (which means no weather for me!)

Hoping that these all get sorted as working the 910 is amazing, mount issues aside!

Vicky
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, typo meant version 6.11 (not 6.12)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vickyarcher wrote:
I also have the problem with the lack of audible POI warnings if the same type POI follows another, unless a navigation instruction falls in between.
Vicky, this topic has been well covered over the past few weeks, the answer is to set the unit up to either have two copies of the speed zoned files loaded and configured to give an alert, the first primary containing what you want to hear, the second being either a silent warning (select "_" the underscore key, but drop the quotes) or a second warning that differs from the first.

To do this requires renaming each speed camera file (both ov2 and the coresponding .bmp file) I add the _01 extension to each file, upload them to the device but set the second warning to a minimum value (100 is the min the device will accept - IIRC) this resets the Go device to enable the device to issue a correct spoken alert prompt for the same camera type when encountered, the problem only appears to affect the Text to Speach warnings, but if you use a beep/ bell or other in built sound to reset the device it will not work.

The silent warning using the TTS option works great with the _ key selected as the warning, a brief pause to the music (mp3 if playing), give it a try -

I need to ammend the speed camera set-up instuctions (for the 910 device) to include this work around, then I can link to a set of instructions, it is a simple solution, that is required for the time being - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

Thanks for that, I have already implemented your work around, the point being we shouldn't have too, combined with the many other software anomalies it's making the 910 less attractive and more annoying.

Here's hoping Tomtom get these sorted asap

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a "Play around" with my 910 earlier loading up a large qty of mp3 3028 tracks to be exact, when I re-booted the unit (which took ages) it only found 2483 songs which is a different figure to lydiachris - I should expalin to get this amount of music crammed onto the device I had to remove the overseas Text To Speach files as I ran out of drive space, so I would say there is a limit but that is a heck of a lot of music, I will be removing quite a bit of what I put on the unit though to speed up the re-boot time which is now taking 60 seconds to get to the PIN entry screen, then a scan of the installed music takes a further 120 seconds.

I bought the unit for navigation, the extra bells and whistles are great, but I will be dropping back to a more usable (for me anyway) sub 1000 music tracks - I only tried "loading it up" to see if I geot the same result as the OP in this thread - Mike
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike for that.
I've also been playing around/killing my 910!!

Firstly, yes I do agree with your statement about buying the 910 for navigation, lets all not forget what the go 910 actually is!!!!

Secondly, I have been experimenting. I have a total of 3085 mp3 tracks, all been named, genre, artist, year ect using Sonic Stage.

I have tried putting the mp3 files onto the 910, firstly by placing them in the mp3 folder on the 910, then into artist, then albulm, folder.

i.e.

mp3/Queen/Queen's Greatest hits I/then the mp3 files.

Out of 3085 tracks only about 2400 got "read" by the 910.

I then tried placing all the mp3 files directly into the mp3 folder on the 910. This worked great, it actually found ALL 3085 tracks. I then though, well i don't want all of the music so i deleted some tracks I didn't want, then I re-booted the 910 and it took about 2 minutes to boot up, put in my pin and got to the map screen, when I tapped the screen, the 910 froze, and then re-started itself. Perhaps an error, i thought! so i let itself re-boot and put in my pin again, then same happened. So i thought, bummer. Killed my 910, back to shop. Then i deleted ALL the mp3 files from the 910, and strangly enough it worked again! Phew Rolling Eyes

So, to me it looks likethe 910 will play quite a few mp3 file, IF you put them on in the correct way and IF you never ever delete any once their on!!!!

A little bit odd and strange to me, but lets all never forget, the 910 is a navigational aid, not an iPod!

Anyone have any ideas, let us know,
Cheers,

lydiachris
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