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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:
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current h and s studies have conculded that you are actually safe nt wearing them as everyman and his dog wear them now _________________ currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Speed cameras at schools
999tommo wrote:
Why don't people know what the speed limit is ?
People know very well what the speed limit is, they just don't know what speed they are travelling at.
The question you should be asking is "Why don't people know what speed they are doing without looking at the speedo".
In good conditions you want to make good progress by travelling at speeds right up to the posted limit for the particular road. As a police trained driver, I'd say you'd have a better than average awareness of your speed. So try an experiment: Cover up your speedo and then use a sat nav to record a track log of your speed on a full range of roads and see how well you do. It's actually quite difficult to get the right balance between making good progress and not exceeding the limit.
Added to this is the fact that many people (rightly or wrongly) consider it safe and reasonable to exceed the posted speed limit under certain conditions just as they feel it would be unsafe to travel AT the posted speed limit in other conditions.
Speed cameras tend to be sited at places where they will make maximum revenue and this is where drivers tend to exceed the speed limit. People have become acustomed to checking their speed when they see a camera or if they don't see the camera early enough to check their speed then they just brake anyway to be on the safe side.
That's why people think they are dangerous.
I hit a dog while riding my bike once. I was doing exactly 30 MPH at the time. I know that because there was a speed camera there (right outside a school no less) and I was looking at my speedo at the time. I didn't see the dog until after I hit it. Fortunately there were no injuries or damage and the dog left the scene before I could exchange details. It really did make me think: Would I have avoided the dog had it not been for the speed camera? Maybe, maybe not. Would I have SEEN the dog had it not been for the speed camera? Certainly.
999tommo wrote:
Perhaps we should make it compulsory for pedestrians to wear fluorescent jackets to make THEM more visible.
Good idea, but it wouldn't make any difference, they would still walk straight out in front of you, cross when then red man is displayed or (my favourite) cross the road within a few yards of a pedestrian/trafficlight crossing. In fact, it would probably make them more complacent and their behaviour worse.
Also consider that the pedestrians that the traffic calming and 20 MPH limits are trying to protect are killed because of their own stupidity ~90% of the time. Yet, it's the driver that is the bogey man here. _________________ Gone fishing!
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject:
Skippy
That's it in a nutshell. People see pedestrians, or other hazzards, but fail to react to them. Here is an example.
You are travelling behind a bus on a known bus route. What is going to happen ?
Obviously the bus is going to stop (sooner or later). If a driver pays attention to what is on the bus, rather than the rear lights, he would see the person standing up (about to get off).
How many times have you been stopped in a queue behind a bus, due to the person at the front failing to appreciate the bus was going to stop, ending up too close to overtake and then just blocking the road. _________________ Tommo...
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