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kevinbev
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| I seem to recall that you can copy programs/games etc if it is for your own personal use, ie backup. Anyway thats what I`ve read on some gaming forums, and dont really see why copying maps should be different as long as you dont make copies to sell on or give to other people. Thats when it would become illegal. If the voice prompts are on the card then I would like to back up and maybe introduce my own voice prompts onto it. Also get rid of some of the Garmin poi`s and generally be able to personalise my i3. |
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MaFt
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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the 'personla use' argument is not actually valid by all accounts...
basically, you have to read the licence agreement - if it says you can make a back-up copy then you can, if not then it's tough luck!
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | | hucker wrote: | | You can't pirate a memory card, you need to have bought the i3 unit to use it! |
you can't pirate a cd cos you have to have bought a cd player in the first place... hmm... |
No it's more like you can't pirate a printer driver cause you need the printer to use it.
| MaFt wrote: | | anyway, Big W is woolworths, b&q, mvc and superdrug all rolled into one. we had one near us but they just call it woolworths now |
Oh. Didn't realise.
BTW, Garmin say I CAN back it up (but they don't say how):
We have in the office tried backing up a card and it did work however this
is not something we support. There are certain copy right issues however I have been informed that one back up can be made for personal use.
So if you wish to do this then fine however Garmin will not provide any
support on this subject.
If in the unlikely situation that the maps were wiped from the card and the
unit is past the 1 year warranty then the cost would be £91.80 inc VAT. |
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| survivalskills wrote: | | I tried the transflash cards out of two different i3 and it would read neither. For some reason I didn't try swapping the cards between units and seeing what happened. |
I don't understand this part - you appear to be contradicting yourself. What cards did you put where? |
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RODTROTTER
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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£91.80 inc VAT. 8O 8O
at least dick turpin wore a mask
you may as well buy a full new i3 |
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ps73uk wrote: | I have discoverd how to back up and restore the ORIGINAL transflash card, but you can ONLY restore the files to ORIGINAL transflash card supplied by Garmin, it will not allow you to copy the data to any other transflash card. :D
I have tried it with my own Original tranflash card supplied by Garmin and can confirm it does work 100% :D |
That was a little unsafe don't you think? You removed the data from your card then replaced it? What if it hadn't worked!
Anyway, if your method only works for the original card, you are obviously not copying absolutely everything, so depending on what gets corrupted, you may not be able to restore it.
My new card and reader are in the post, so I will have a play when I get them and let you know how I get on. As I said above, Garmin told me it IS possible (mind you maybe they were using the same card or one of their special ones - they weren't too clear). |
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | the 'personla use' argument is not actually valid by all accounts...
basically, you have to read the licence agreement - if it says you can make a back-up copy then you can, if not then it's tough luck!
MaFt |
Read a license agreement? Isn't that like reading a manual? It's strictly forbidden! |
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| RODTROTTER wrote: | £91.80 inc VAT. 8O 8O
at least dick turpin wore a mask
you may as well buy a full new i3 |
It's an absolute ripoff and should be illegal. At the most you are paying for a new transflash card (20 quid) and 5 minutes of someone's time (most definitely not worth the remaining £71.80!) |
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RODTROTTER
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| hucker if you find out how to back up the card let me know please i have a spare but would be nice to know |
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zogman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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it cant be done......i've tried it with a blank transflash card/reader and had no success...
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| As it's in a special format, some utilities may be required. |
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ps73uk
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| hucker wrote: |
That was a little unsafe don't you think? You removed the data from your card then replaced it? What if it hadn't worked!
Anyway, if your method only works for the original card, you are obviously not copying absolutely everything, so depending on what gets corrupted, you may not be able to restore it.
My new card and reader are in the post, so I will have a play when I get them and let you know how I get on. As I said above, Garmin told me it IS possible (mind you maybe they were using the same card or one of their special ones - they weren't too clear). |
I had been messing about with the card for a few hours before that and was 99.999% that doing what i did would work. If it hadn't then thats life i would have had only myself to blame, someone had to try it anyway!  
Just copying the folder that i copied isn't copying everything , but at least it's a start, it backs the map, poi and voice data up, better than backing nothing atall up. 
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not too sure whathappened to my Magellan. All I know is it restarted when the car battery terminal came loose and presented me with "NO BASE MAP! STARTING UPLOAD!" No buttons did anything. Apparently many Magellan models do this. Not sure about Garmins though - maybe I'm worrying about nothing. |
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ps73uk
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| hucker wrote: | | If in the unlikely situation that the maps were wiped from the card and the unit is past the 1 year warranty then the cost would be £91.80 inc VAT. |
8O £91.80!
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hucker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ps73uk wrote: | Garmin Streetpilot i3
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Navigon Navigator 5 |
You must have one hell of a bad sense of direction to need FIVE navigators! |
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