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Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
Nomada wrote:
Hi MikeB
MikeB wrote:
Dave didnt include an example of the full postcode search in the review images. If you chack out the GO software review you will see the full 7 digit postcode shown. Check out www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-go-5.php for the GO review. Everything you see there also applies to the PDA version.
The menus have been changed to a tap menu system
To be honest I didn't check it out until now. And yes it appears to be 7 digits postcode search.
So now I checked it out. I mean to check it was not a composed picture. So let's go for results:
Postcode CM202DE -> School Lane
Absolutely wrong, School Lane at Harlow has several Postcodes, none of them this one, and following the words of the review they should appear in the list before an Unnamed Street to let you choose the one you're interested.
BTW, School Lane have CM202QB,CM202QD, CM202QE, CM202QL, CM203QA and CM203GN.
CM202DE is a postcode for a PO Box. It's geographical situation is the same as the next one CM202DF, a industrial state in Edinburgh Way, never School Lane.
From my point of view it needs a lot of "workshop" job still. Postcodes accuracy is no more than 20 yards around, never half a mile. And it doesn't show the rest of postcodes for School Lane, that even when wrong should be there, unless TomTom have not the full data.
Jose Adell
Jose,
This is my "mistake" if you would like to call it that. I picked an arbitary postcode not wanting to identify an individual, or specific company.
However as you have taken exception to this I would state that the postcodes of everyone that I have put in with the exception of 1 have been 100% accurate. The 1 that was wrong located my Son's address and was in the adjecent road. My son lives on a corner of 2 roads.
Checking the CM202DE postcode using streetmap.co.uk places you in exactly the same spot that TomTom does. Try it and see.
Is your point that we have fabricated the review (as you seem to suggest) or that the data that TomTom is using is not accurate? _________________ Mike Barrett
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:
Hi MikeB
MikeB wrote:
However as you have taken exception to this I would state that the postcodes of everyone that I have put in with the exception of 1 have been 100% accurate. The 1 that was wrong located my Son's address and was in the adjecent road. My son lives on a corner of 2 roads.
Checking the CM202DE postcode using streetmap.co.uk places you in exactly the same spot that TomTom does. Try it and see.
Streetmap.co.uk just use the 4 first digits, doesn't matter what is coming after, try it, you will obtain always the same map for CM20. But you can go to the source, OS or Royal Mail, or even Autoroute (licensed by OS codepoint) and using a proper 7 digits search. Do I need to mention too my program?
MikeB wrote:
Is your point that we have fabricated the review (as you seem to suggest) or that the data that TomTom is using is not accurate?
I have not any intention to hide that postcodes are for me an economical issue. But it doesn't means I'm against TomTom, I just love it but there is not the same love for their makers, their promises and their publicity. Even when their actions make me a favour.
Every time is a new review of some thing about TomTom I don't read it, I really drink, eat and chew it up to the last semicolon. You know my business is on it and I can recognize when is time to change.
So I don't mean you fabricated the review, I just checked what was on it to know if it was real and accurate.
I don't know if you still get that machine and software. If so, permit me to suggest a test. As you pointed before street map is giving the same point. But is giving the same point for every CM20 XXX.
So I'm affraid the only thing TomTom did is to give you the chance to write 7 digits, internally it works only with 4 or 5.
It's a easy test, isn't it?
If they worked with the full postcode, as was described in the review a few more postcodes should appear after the first one. But no. It only appears one related to a nonamed street. So how is possible this with a street that has many postcodes? Just because they work only with the first part (as before) even when seems to work with seven or they are using a very old database (if so time and customers will say it).
If I'm wrong I will give you a license for life of my "then" obsolete program and my apologizes to TomTom, of course.
Hope my poor English is enough to make my point clear.
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject:
The real test then is to send me a postcode of a place that you know well. I will then put it in my GO and will be able to tell you which road you have selected.
Please dont send your Postcode or that of a person any business will do fine. _________________ Mike Barrett
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:
Hi MikeB
MikeB wrote:
The real test then is to send me a postcode of a place that you know well. I will then put it in my GO and will be able to tell you which road you have selected.
Please dont send your Postcode or that of a person any business will do fine.
Just test all the serie I gave before for School Lane... as simple as that. If I'm right all will give you the same place. If wrong you should have slight desplacements in that street.
If you want I can give you more series of postcodes for just one street, I can guess you will get the same point for each even when they are clearly separeted. From my point of view TT will give you differents points for a street just in the case some of the 4-5 first digits are not the same.
Joined: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 285 Location: Cheshire, England
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject:
Having nothing better to do this evening, this discussion has piqued my curiosity. Playing with streetmap:
- CM20 2DE does just show the default location for CM20 postcodes, but the map has no arrow indicating a precise location and there's a warning message that "this is a post code for a post office box. You should confirm your destination before travelling." Shouldn't TomTom be giving you this warning too, Mike?
- CM20 2DA (the next one I tried at random) does work as you'd expect, it shows a different area with an arrow to the Queensgate Centre off Edinburgh Way. Could you compare that one, Mike? But it does show that it's not true that Streetmap always shows the same place for all CM20 postcodes, which is what I think you said, Jose.
By the way, an earlier post of mine in this thread seems to have been missed, or else I've missed the answer. To ask again, is there a "Go to coordinates" screen available, presumably from the Map screen as that's where it sits in TT3. _________________ Barry Davies
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject:
Hi sland
sland wrote:
EH12 9DQ
That postcode is not yet in PAF database. And that is not the point. The point is to get several postcodes with the same begining for a street to know if TT makes difference in their locations.
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:
Hi Barry
barryd wrote:
- CM20 2DA (the next one I tried at random) does work as you'd expect, it shows a different area with an arrow to the Queensgate Centre off Edinburgh Way. Could you compare that one, Mike? But it does show that it's not true that Streetmap always shows the same place for all CM20 postcodes, which is what I think you said, Jose.
Thanks for your point, I did a lot of tests and gave me always the same results. I will re-take later this CM20 and streetmaps, my wife is calling me now for dinner.
That postcode is not yet in PAF database. And that is not the point. The point is to get several postcodes with the same begining for a street to know if TT makes difference in their locations.
Jose Adell
I would be surprised if it isn't as it has been in existence for at least 8 years.
Oh, and your program finds it ok ;) _________________ Rgds,
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject:
Hi sland
sland wrote:
I would be surprised if it isn't as it has been in existence for at least 8 years.
Oh, and your program finds it ok ;)
My apologize. I did read EH12 9DO. Really, I'm very serious on this, I'm getting very big problems with my sight. I have a new lenses just a few days ago, and when better cannot see as used before.
And yes the postcode is situated just in the bisectrice of the angle made by Redheughs Rigg and Redheughs Avenue, just in a teorical line joining both streets in the first junction both have to north and east. So I presume houses in both streets (East side for first and north side for the second) will have this postcode.
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
Hi Barry,
barryd wrote:
- CM20 2DA (the next one I tried at random) does work as you'd expect, it shows a different area with an arrow to the Queensgate Centre off Edinburgh Way. Could you compare that one, Mike? But it does show that it's not true that Streetmap always shows the same place for all CM20 postcodes, which is what I think you said, Jose.
I did re-test street map and yes you're right. The only explanation is I toke CM202DE as sample. That postcode is for a PO Box, so street maps refers it correctly to the Post Office, like it was CM20, may be then TomTom Go makes the same.
My program has a small diversion, as it's prepared for couriers and it shows where the company is really, they cannot leave the parcels in the post office.
Every other postcode for School Lane that I related is reflected in Streetmaps with slight changes in the arrow position, so it's working fine.
Happens it the same with TT GO?
Joined: 18/08/2003 22:18:21 Posts: 117 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:
Hi Jose,
Can your prog identify locations of house name, street and postcode
where no number exists?
also individual farms names again if post code known?
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject:
Hi dmac,
dmac wrote:
Hi Jose,
Can your prog identify locations of house name, street and postcode
where no number exists?
also individual farms names again if post code known?
cheers
Sorry, no. My program only gives you the exact point for a given postcode. My experience as courier whilst I was developing it is that big buildings (offices buildings) or isolated buildings (like farms) have just a dedicated postcode for them (London city). And was very useful for me as a lot of farms are reconverting now part of their buildings to allocate offices.
House names only can be obtained with Royal Mail PAF, and my database is from OS, so only grid or coordinates references.
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