where to get older navmanst or tomtom software ?

pezzer · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 49

Where can I find older smartst or tomtom software - I'm on a tight budget at the moment but need full western europe as well as uk maps and 3D plus voice but can't afford tomtom3 or smartst v3 as I would need to spend a lot to get full europe maps ?

Hard to find anything - where are all these old cd-roms stashed away !!?

Dave · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:40 am Post subject:

There are retailers that are still stocking the V2 software but most of it's with the Navman Bluetooth GPS, so you could buy this and sell the GPS on ebay.

DavidW · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject:

I suspect much old stock, especially of TomTom products, has long since gone. I suspect it was remaindered a long time ago, sold off as "you have install, activate then apply and pay a minimal handling charge for the latest version" or possibly returned to the manufacturer for exchange for latest version products.

TomTom Navigator 2 may well be a bad choice now - the maps are around two years old, there's no official support for Pocket PC 2003, let alone Second Edition, and you may find it just doesn't work properly on some hardware. There's also likely no upgrade path to the future - the Navigator 3 upgrade deal was only open from Navigator 2 and not Navigator 1. Meanwhile, the ability to upgrade to Navigator 3 from Navigator 2 ended last week.

In the end, I suspect hunting down old TomTom software will be a false economy - unless you find a copy particularly cheap (as you may if someone that has upgraded sells his or her Navigator 2 pack - which is of dubious legality).

Old Navman software is more likely to be found, as version 3 has only just launched and isn't yet available on all platforms - but Navman upgrades tend to be expensive.

David

pezzer · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 49

Thanks for that - as a stopgap will the old navman smartpath trip/city software work with any wired or BT receiver as I'm selling my gps 1000 etc and may have to wait a bit before I can buy new software?

DavidW · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject:

Be careful of licence agreements - if you sell the GPS 1000, you might be selling the right to use the software, even if you hang on to the CD.

If that software uses TomTom GPS, then you could try upgrading to the latest version of TomTom GPS. If that works, it is probably possible to use other GPS hardware, though you may find that there is some kind of lock to stop the software working with other than the GPS 1000.

David

Tim Buxton · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject:

If it's the same software that came with my first Navman sleeve then there are no licence restrictions as regards restricting its use to the hardware with which it came. Mine was also called Smartpath City and Smartpath Trip, which was effectively rebadged Tomtom Citymaps and Routeplanner, or something like that. The CDs contained PC, PPC and Palm variants if I remember correctly and the software wasn't tied to the hardware, either.

Hopefully, Pezzer, yours is the same.
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DavidW · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject:

It sounds like pezzer may well have a plan coming together then! The latest version of TomTom GPS can be found at support.tomtom.com

David

pezzer · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 49

That's great - my wife is also getting a M1000 through Orange so we eventually want to use the same software ( I guess it's Ok to do this from a licensing point of view - ie TomTom 3 or similar?) for hers and my iPAQ and in the interim I want to keep using the old SmartPath stuff.

DavidW · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject:

It's one copy of TomTom Navigator per Pocket PC. I have a TomTom licence agreement here - this is part of the UK licence:

1) GRANT OF LICENCE:This TomTom License Agreement ("License") permits you to use the TomTom computer program and the digital (map) data included in the accompanying package acquired with this License on any single computer, provided that the Software is installed on only one computer at any time and provided the Software is combined with only one (1) navigation system. This License is non-exclusive and non-transferable.

This License does not imply any rights to future upgrades or updates of the Software. The use of any upgrades or updates of the Software is governed by this License and may be subject to additional payments.

I think that's pretty clear.

David

pezzer · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 08, 2004 Posts: 49

Crystal !!

I can understand the reasons ,but it's a bit rough if you own two PDA's which as I'm buying my wife's, I effectively will.

antibt · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject:

I remember of seeing the maps for pocket pc on auction in ebay.
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DavidW · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:49 am Post subject:

I've now got two machines, and two copies of Navigator 3. It's rare that both are used together, but as each now has its own SD card and GPS, there was no alternative to paying up for a second copy of Navigator 3.

I may be a moderator here and have worked with TomTom on various things, but I paid full price for the software pack. It's worth it - it's saved my mother so much time and energy these past few weeks since she took over my old setup.

David

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