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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:17 am    Post subject: Audi show way with digital dashboard Reply with quote

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Audi unveiled their new digital dashboard in the Audi TT last March but now they've revealed that it will be rolling out to other models with the new Audi A4 the next in their range to get the upgrade.

Using a large 12.3-inch TFT display in place of the traditional gauges, the virtual dashboard uses crystal clear graphics to represent the gauges and information panels and because this is a virtual display it can change instantly from the classic dashboard with dominant speed and rev counters to an infotainment mode where navigation, media etc are displayed more prominently.

Powered by an Nvidia Tegra 3, a chip more commonly found in high end smartphones, the display refreshes at 60 frames per second and is accompanied by steering wheel and centre console controls. The A4 also includes a large screen mounted centrally on the dashboard so that passengers can view navigation, enter destinations and select media.

Source: www.audi.com

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is an option on the humble Passat too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to the display on some Citroen C4 models too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I initially saw this before release I thought it was fantastic but it does have serious drawbacks. When I am going somewhere unfamiliar, when I really use navigation, I am usually not alone and have a copilot so to speak - the wife. She usually monitors the nav screen which allows me to concentrate on the road/traffic/signs etc. Moving the screen to in front of the driver really is a retrograde step in this regard.

My car has a small display in the drivers instruments to give me next turn info at a glance which is all the attention we should be doing when driving. My wife's car goes one better and next turn info is displayed in a heads up display where you can still see most of the road ahead even if not actively focused there.

This new Audi dashboard although graphically looks great is just another distraction for the driver and a very fancy one at that. Don't we have enough of this kind of thing as manufacturers try to entice us to buy their cars with new tech to differentiate themselves from other brands.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:21 am    Post subject: When it crashes . . so might you? Reply with quote

And it WILL crash, no doubt at all. Leaving you with no instruments at all? Surely there is a legal requirement (and a decent use case) for an analogue speedo at least?

As others have said a HUD would be more useful I think. But it IS pretty....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do quote that "The A4 also includes a large screen mounted centrally on the dashboard so that passengers can view navigation, enter destinations and select media" so could use traditional method if you desired
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for the new A4 but as far as I am aware the TT doesn't have a central screen.

It's still a big distraction for the driver to play with. I hope it's not adjustable while driving.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skellum wrote:
They do quote that "The A4 also includes a large screen mounted centrally on the dashboard so that passengers can view navigation, enter destinations and select media"
So presumably the speedo is no longer directly in front of the driver?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:53 pm    Post subject: "NEW" Audi Digital Dash Reply with quote

The Audi version could be better, but I have been driving a C4 Grand Picasso with a digital dash since 3rd April 2014, and it is stunning. Regarding computer crashes, I have yet to experience that "pleasure." The display shown in this week's PGPS Newsletter is the same as what I see, and I have to agree that I don't use the gps within the main screen, purely to reduce distraction. I have a totally competent co-driver next to me who can see the normal 7" dash-centre gps and warns me when necessary. Both gps displays can be active at the same time.
Audi is great but Citroen beat them to it this time. And it hasn't faltered yet (that may be in the pipeline, as with all electronics).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:10 pm    Post subject: LCD Displays also on new Volvo XC90 Reply with quote

My new Volvo XC90 has a similar arrangement. A 12.3" driver display provides speed, rev counter and other functions - including a duplicate of the sat nav map & details from the central iPad style display. The display can also be programmed to show telephone call details, numbers etc and a host of other functions controlled from the steering wheel button sets.

One of the most useful functions is the system that recognises speed limit signs and displays the appropriate symbol on the speedo part of the display - you have the option then to turn on the 'speed limiter' so the vehicle does not exceed the restricted speed or ignore it and suffer a flash of red lights should you exceed the limit. The indicator is fast to change when going from one speed zone to another - and it can be de-activated if you don't want to be reminded what you should be doing.

Benefit is that you don't have to take your eyes off the road other than for a quick glance - just as you do now with electro / mechanical instruments. A head up diplay is an (expensive) option to improve matters further.

Not sure what happens if there is a failure of the display, though ! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me to this old project I once run in to it http://www.zcarcockpit.fr/EN_index.html , maybe that guy is behind this new one dashboard
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a new generation of drivers who are used to continually taking in and processing much more information than most of us old fogeys who I suspect make up the majority of the PocketGPSWorld readership. Just look at a Formula 1 steering wheel nowadays.

My concern would be that electronics in cars dates much more quickly than the cars themselves. Probably not an issue for the first owner, but I've been looking at Porsche 996 Turbos (from 2001-2006), and the sat nav and media systems looks really dated compared with the rest of the car. My 2001 BMW M5 is still a fantastic car, but it has a factory-fitted cassette (!) slot, and I use a TomTom PND on unfamiliar journeys rather than struggle with the built-in sat nav.

Unless Audi continue to provide software updates for the system (and why would they?), then it will very soon look incredibly out of date. Just look at smartphones, where most people upgrade them every 6 months or so.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually prefer the two display dashboards, with some info directly in front of me & other info on the centre media display, I know where to look for what & find it less confusing than one display with all the info, and if I'm taking my eyes off the road I really don't see it makes any difference whether I look down or left.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: When it crashes . . so might you? Reply with quote

mistersaxon wrote:
And it WILL crash, no doubt at all. Leaving you with no instruments at all? Surely there is a legal requirement (and a decent use case) for an analogue speedo at least?

As others have said a HUD would be more useful I think. But it IS pretty....


Audi dashboards are quite poor for reliability, so to get this new screen replaced on a used Audi is going to be very expensive I would expect.

I prefer the seperate centre console for satnav.
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