Am i in the right place?

[DennisN]

[slimsta]

Dennis N thanks for the response,
i'm not good at all of the quote stuff on here so i'll try and answer the best i can, taking the picture with the Local in the background could be an answer, but would it be fair to say then that if no-one else has put the submission in, then you only have a record of myself submitting?
Yes i understand it still needs to be verified but,
i mean don't you put what is submitted into some sort of order as you receive the information to eliminate any confusion or arguments of who has submitted what?
I was under the impression that the two i submitted were on Sundays, but as you have record of it, it may well have been one on a sunday and one on a monday (possibly a bank holiday) unsure TBH.
The direction of the way the camera is pointing, against the co-ordinates, my apologies for not understanding that and getting it wrong, (genuinely) i appreciate its been corrected, and didn't know at the time how to contribute to the database correctly, back then i just about managed to select the correct section on here to submit it!
I merely submitted co-ordinates of where the mobile was and wasn't aware you didn't want the direction the camera was pointing but the travel of vehicles going down the road.
This submission would have been Monday 30th July in 2007 as it was last Crimbo i received my Tom Tom , do you have records of the other submission by me ? It would have been a Sunday.
Surley if i have reported twice, not taking the verification into consideration, you have had further reports received? or is it reports by the same submitter dont count ?

[Andy_P]

[DennisN]

Here comes the final post in this thread. It's getting too long and going nowhere, just like they all do, so I'll lock it after my last word - we simply cannot do this sort of inquest into every camera submission.

slimsta an acknowledgment email is automatically sent back to every person who submits, so they do have the option to save that email for future reference.

I and the other verifiers do not keep the records, that's our database coordinator as Andy says. And he's bloody good at it. Every submission is on record, date and time, so when a camera is verified, he has details of the first person to accurately submit it. We do not have any idea of who submitted it, he does. We do not have any idea of what submissions have been made by any member, he does.

The significance of Sunday is that slimsta said the mobile:37773 operates on Sundays in his experience. The significance of me saying that our Verifier's file shows it reported on Monday might cast doubt on whether he reported it first. It might confirm that it was reported by somebody from a work PC? Not that it matters (to me, at least - I'm just interested in having an accurate database, although he probably prefers an emphasis on getting a reward). Anyway, if 37773 is from his report and it subsequently qualifies, he will be notified.

The camera hasn't yet been verified, so somebody is still up with a chance of a free membership, if/when that camera report qualifies (verification PLUS additional reports of actual sightings of the van).

We shall not resolve the question in this thread, no matter how much more we debate it. No offense intended, no aspersions cast on anyone. Just at two pages already, it's gone far enough, so here comes the big key!
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If it tastes good - it's fattening.

Two of them are obesiting!!

[MaFt]

i've unlocked this to make comment and allow a final comment from slimsta:


your 2 submissions are for very different locations (about 1.7km away from each other)

the first one:

pMobile:30842@30
Latitude 52.42767
Longitude -1.47705
(Sewall Hwy)

Submitted: 2007-04-07 09:48:56

Comments: This is a mobile camera, every now and then this silver volvo appears, and two nice officers pull the vehicles in, this has also been know for drink drive awareness campaigns and it really is tucked in nice and neat out of the view until the last second, when of course its too late, if it wasnt for traffic in front of me driving slow, i would have been caught by now, THIS IS A 30 MPH road! In a built up area.


the 2nd one:

pMobile:37773@30
Latitude 52.4108
Longitude -1.46302
(Longfellow Road)

Submitted: 2007-07-30 08:55:24

Comments: Hi, This location is near the corner of a pub, (the painted lady) Just tucked in nicely off the car park (on the roadside) well hidden by trees pointing west as you look at the map towards Mellowdew Rd, Two nice officers sitting there pulling drivers in almost every two - three minutes, this is a 30 mph road, but people do come down this road towards Hipswell Highway faster than that.



These are your only submissions - are you saying these are the same camera?! The fact they are nearly a mile apart from each other makes me assume that they were very inaccurate submissions and could be the reason why they have not been confirmed by any other users?

Note that the date of the first submission was before the 10th July change to the lifetime subscription criteria that included mobiles so only the 2nd one would qualify (if it is actually accurate)

MaFt

[slimsta]

MaFt
thanks for allowing me to put my point across here,
Think it was a bit on the harsh side that this was locked before i could comment back, you see that is the answer isn't it ?
Making statements like "going nowhere just like they all do" whats that all about?

Isn't it fair to say people have the right to query the submissions, or verifiers through a forum such as this ?

My intention wasn't to let this go out of control, and i have taken on board what DennisN has said - "No offense intended, no aspersions cast on anyone. Just at two pages already, it's gone far enough, so here comes the big key!"

But this is a forum and i feel all comments in the forums are valid towards Pocket GPS World, positive or negative,
what am i supposed to do stay quiet when i believe in my previous comments ?
If i am wrong fair enough, no issues
Its amazing how many on the site jump on your comments, as soon as questions are raised!

They were both for the same submission, However it was my first submission as a newbie and to be honest i had difficulty in submitting it aswell as understanding on how to do the submission and i bet i haven't been the first, or last.
The time i have spent typing on this Topic is just not worth it, should have stopped earlier, so lets leave it as it is and lock the thread, thanks for allowing me the opportunity of a final comment
have a Happy New Year
Slimsta

[DennisN]

[slimsta]

you know i can't win here, cause if i comment i get bombarded with quotes and lines from previous Threads to back up whats already been discussed,
and yet if i don't comment it gives the impression that by not replying shows i'm not really bothered about the whole thing,"Thats what its really about",

Already enough time on this - No offense intended, no aspersions cast on anyone. Just at two pages already, (maybe three by now) it's gone far enough (right Dennis N) ?

As i said thanks for allowing me the opportunity of a final comment MaFt
have a Happy New Year
Slimsta.

[falkirk81]

Although i do agree that it could be a bit dis-heartening having absolutely no follow up on a genuine camera submission like in this case, it is also impossible for every camera site submission to take up 2 pages of forum debate over why it has or hasn`t been verified. Yes it is frustrating when, and im speaking from experience, you submit locations and hear nothing back apart from initial reciept of submission, the submitters should not expect to have a detailed report on every submission they make.

Maybe something extra should be added to the submission page with regards to 'not posting in forums regarding status of your submission'.

Also, would it not be possible to have the submission page warn the submitter if they were not currently subscribed? This surely is quite a simple process and would save a lot of hassle from expired but registered users.

This kind of questioning only puts pressure on the verifiers time to approve all cameras and consequently could make the database less reliable and less trusted!

It should be stated quite clearly at submission that as and when the location provided has been deemed to be a suitable position and several other submissions from other users have been sent in, then and only then will the first submitter be granted lifetime membership.

Maybe i`m being a bit harsh here but all the lifetime memberships were gained by following these rules correctly, once we start deviating from this then it will devalue the lifetime membership award!

rant over
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[slimsta]

Have generated a new post aswell as adding to this, sorry i was unsure whether the orig would still be on here.
Apologies for that, but yes managed to find the orig post, anyway my question is, where do the pictures get submitted to please? (sorted and sent cheers Darren)

[PaulB2005]

As this has been answered here i'll lock this thread.

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