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stevest220
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 Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: New cameras onBlackheath Hill, SE10 |
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| A couple of days ago I noticed new cameras on Blackheath Hill, London SE10. There are six of them I think, 3 facing in each direction, all mounted on 1 pole. Does anyone know what type of camera they are?? |
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Darren
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Are they like this:
They are ANPR cameras (Automatic Number Plate Recognition), discussed here.
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stevest220
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Thet do appear similar in design, different coulour though (grey). I have seen this type of camera appearing in London a lot lately. They seem to be cropping up on roads bringing traffic in and out of London.
If they are ANPR's then good, I'm not a terrorist so I have nothing to worry about.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| stevest220 wrote: | I'm not a terrorist so I have nothing to worry about.
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Unless you care about your civil liberties.... 
You're probably seeing this design:
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| stevest220 wrote: |
If they are ANPR's then good, I'm not a terrorist so I have nothing to worry about.
Steve |
Of course it would be entirely possible for the times you passed two of these cameras to be used to calculate your average speed between say London and Birmingham. Just like SPECS, but over a longer distance.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Not yet, as they would need to be "type approved" to work as speed cams, but it won't be long..... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Andy_P2002 wrote: | | stevest220 wrote: | I'm not a terrorist so I have nothing to worry about.
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Unless you care about your civil liberties.... |
I agree, our civil Liberties are a major concern, so to live with terrorists we have to be surrounded with cameras and have all our phone calls recorded - i don't think so.
I also have nothing to hide, but i'm not having some slimy, pathetic, scumbag terrorist, dictating my civil liberties.
Cars with no tax, different issue, catch them and crush them.
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stevest220
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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The ANPR link does not work, maybe the post is too old.
I entirely agree about the loss of our civil liberties, I think the current govenment will use any excuse to to justify their 'big brother' approach to keeping tabs on everything that we do.
I might be wrong, but, I seem to remeber reading that ANPR's do not record any information, they run your VRM through a database and only flag it up if you have been 'naughty'. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| stevest220 wrote: | | The ANPR link does not work, maybe the post is too old. |
The link I posted? works for me?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| I followed the link, says "topic or post requested does not exist"????? |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| stevest220 wrote: | | I followed the link, says "topic or post requested does not exist"????? |
That link takes you to a post in the Subscribers' section. Non-subscribers will not be able to see it.
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| stevest220 wrote: | | They seem to be cropping up on roads bringing traffic in and out of London. |
They may be to monitior the new Low Emission Zone which comes into force on 4 February 2008. Details here. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| If they are indeed LEZ cameras then perhaps people can start up submitting the locations to generate a POI file for the benefit of others, these are not speed cameras though so the locations should be submitted via the normal POI submission page Here - Mike |
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| Cant get my head round this one, can someone explain how overhead gantry sensors can act as exhaust sniffers to read emissions to identify a particular vehicle, if it is database monitored then the existing cameras would do this job, I have not heard of this scheme until now and checked the link to make ascertain whether it was dated Aprl 1st but the whole site seems hard reading, I must admit i havent been to london for over twenty years, will i also need a passport and visa |
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| aj2052 wrote: | | Cant get my head round this one, can someone explain how overhead gantry sensors can act as exhaust sniffers to read emissions to identify a particular vehicle, if it is database monitored then the existing cameras would do this job, I have not heard of this scheme until now and checked the link to make ascertain whether it was dated Aprl 1st but the whole site seems hard reading, I must admit i havent been to london for over twenty years, will i also need a passport and visa |
If by "existing cameras" you mean the "Ring of Steel" or Congestion Charge Zone cameras, then, if you look at the map, you'll see that this covers a much wider area, pretty much anywhere within the M25!! I'm sure it will be a ANPR system, being able to tell, from the DVLA, the vehicle classification.
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