REDUCTION IN SPEED CAMERA DATABASE THIS MONTH

[classy56]

[Border_Collie]

I've said before I'm not really bothered if the requested addition to the database is given or not but it gets me thinking, what did people do before they owned a Sat. Nav? What did people do before the safety camera database was available? What do those without either do?

Before Sat. Nav. we used paper maps, before the camera database we observed the speed limit signs and camera warning signs.

Thinking about it some more, what is the difference in seeing a camera warning sign and getting a warning on the Sat. Nav. or not? Surely the reaction would be to slow down if the speed limit was being exceeded.

TomTom and others may not be perfect and the camera database not 100%, use them both as an 'aid' and just be happy we are better off than we were without them.
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[Border_Collie]

My Grandmother showed me this when I reached my teens. Worth a read for those who haven't seen it before.

[IF]

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!


--Rudyard Kipling
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[mikealder]

[colinm345]

[DennisN]

May I repeat (part of) my post of 30th January please - doesn't seem as though many people noticed it in all the flying dirt. I have now reddened a very significant part of it.

[lola]

[DennisN]

[Andy_P]

Quoted from the board FAQs:

[Skippy]

[lola]

No worries - the problem that I see is the camera van doesnt always use the same site within a certain location (maybe depends who is driving etc) hence Beckford has 3 mobile sites all of which are real - deleting and adding a new one only corrects that database for what I saw today - however - will it be right tomorrow - I doubt it. So you might as well have a warning at either end of villages or one in the middle and advise users to set their warning distance to 500 yards. Neither of these are optimimum solutions though. An alternative is to add 3 locations for Beckford and users to set the warning to 100 yards - but this misses the fourth location I saw today.

I am fairly certain that the camera van operators are told where the PGPS warnings are and so sit along the road from them and consequently is the proliferation of cameras on the PGPS database doomed to continued expansion?

I admit my submissions for Long Newton varied by +-70 yards and so I expect other submissions vary by as much or more.

With regard Beckford (and all similar) - is there any point in adding a 4th position or delete the middle camera? Didnt matter anyway - the trafffic had slowed to 34mph in the 50 limit - so we could all say cheese.

[Border_Collie]

[Chris_UK]

As with mobile cameras, they can scan your speed for a longer distance, maybe its worthwhile having extra warning. Some roads are difficult to see speed changes with junctions particularly when it's changing from 40, 50, 30, 50, 60, 40, etc. So sometimes its helpful to bring attention to the speed. What would be idea would be a camera database with every speed limit listed as you change from 50 to 30 - surely some other people use the database as a speed reminder too?

[Hands0n]

Well, that was an "interesting" read, all 13 pages of it!

I'm new to the Pocket GPS Speed Camera Database having loaded it up today and taken it out for a run around North Kent. It is accurate enough for all purposes that such a facility should be use for. That being to be given at least a hint of the presence of a potential or actual speed camera site.

I would like the database to be 100% accurate and include 100% of all cameras and sites in the UK. But is that an entirely realistic expecation?

I regard the database a continual work in progress, something that will develop and change indefintely. And for £19 a year ..... blimey! who can argue at that price, really?

[duggie1982]

I second that one. At the end of the day if I come across a speed camera that I have noticed not to be on the list I will submit it, thats all I can do.

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