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DeeJay01
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| Sallyann wrote: | I've been playing with a tool called SQLite Manager 2, which has a very user-friendly interface, much easier than using a normal SQL command-line program.
If you copy the igo.db file to your PC, you can use SQLite Manager to examine and edit all of the data stored in the database including your own POI's.
I've been using the free version of the program which is limited to 20 data rows. If you want the unlimited version to import all your POI's there is a cost of $39.
http://www.sqlabs.net/sqlitemanager.php
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Sally,
Thanks for your reply. I have downloaded SQ Lite Manager and have no idea how to use it so I may have to stick to my previous method.
It makes me sad  that there isn't a real proper way of manipulating the POIs. Most other Satnav are capable of this. You would think that it should be a basic requirement.
Anyway. Thanks again
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CeeJay
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Hi DeeJay01.
I have to agree with you there.
POI handling is the one place Tom Tom beats the Mio.
On a Tom Tom you just copy your own POI files into your map folder on the device. All very windows.
Piece of cake.
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bigrids
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I totally agree. I have added many poi's to my TomTom in seconds using my laptop. I have tried a couple of times to add poi's to my Mio with no luck at all. There are some good websites out there for poi's and they say they are compatible with the Mio(.csv) but what a performance to try and get them on the Mio.
I can't be bothered anymore. Till someone comes up with a drag and drop system like TomTom I shall just have to wait.
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Sallyann
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| DeeJay01 wrote: |
Thanks for your reply. I have downloaded SQ Lite Manager and have no idea how to use it so I may have to stick to my previous method. |
It's not too difficult if you check out the Help file. You need to Open the igo.db file and then click on the Manage tool. The POI data is in the tables WPOIGLOUP, WPOILABEL and WPOITREE. But I agree that unless you are not experienced in databases it's a steep learning curve.
According to 'fable' who was/is closely involved with iGO, the new software version was supposed to have POI import, but fable hasn't been around for some time and isn't answering PM's any more.
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Sallyann
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, that should have been:
| Sallyann wrote: | But I agree that unless you ARE experienced in databases it's a steep learning curve.
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Pity we can't edit posts as in other forums.
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Sallyann
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Well, I had a play for the first time with iGO POI Explorer (IPE), and it all seemed quite painless. What I did was:
1. Converted a list of a POI's from .ASC to .KML (There are programs around to do this, but they seemed a bit more complex than necessary so I knocked up my own simple utility).
2. Copied iGO.db from C710 to PC.
3. Ran iGO POI Explorer and imported iGO.db
4. Imported the .KML file into iGO.db
5. Exported the updated iGO.db to PC.
6. Copied iGO.db back to the C710
That's it - restart MioMap and the new POI's are in the right places under My POI's. All my settings are still there, untouched.
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DeeJay01
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Sallyann wrote: | Well, I had a play for the first time with iGO POI Explorer (IPE), and it all seemed quite painless. What I did was:
1. Converted a list of a POI's from .ASC to .KML (There are programs around to do this, but they seemed a bit more complex than necessary so I knocked up my own simple utility).
2. Copied iGO.db from C710 to PC.
3. Ran iGO POI Explorer and imported iGO.db
4. Imported the .KML file into iGO.db
5. Exported the updated iGO.db to PC.
6. Copied iGO.db back to the C710
That's it - restart MioMap and the new POI's are in the right places under My POI's. All my settings are still there, untouched.
Sal |
Sally,
As usual you have come up with the goods again. I have just been looking at the forums with discuss iGO POI explorer but I cannot find the software anywhere. Do you have the URL for this magical piece of software  |
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DeeJay01
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Sallyann wrote: | Well, I had a play for the first time with iGO POI Explorer (IPE), and it all seemed quite painless. What I did was:
1. Converted a list of a POI's from .ASC to .KML (There are programs around to do this, but they seemed a bit more complex than necessary so I knocked up my own simple utility).
2. Copied iGO.db from C710 to PC.
3. Ran iGO POI Explorer and imported iGO.db
4. Imported the .KML file into iGO.db
5. Exported the updated iGO.db to PC.
6. Copied iGO.db back to the C710
That's it - restart MioMap and the new POI's are in the right places under My POI's. All my settings are still there, untouched.
Sal |
Sally,
Sorry I've found it
http://inetcom.hu/mick/igo/iGOPOIExplorerBeta.zip
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DeeJay01
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[quote="DeeJay01"][quote="Sallyann"]Well, I had a play for the first time with iGO POI Explorer (IPE), and it all seemed quite painless. What I did was:
1. Converted a list of a POI's from .ASC to .KML (There are programs around to do this, but they seemed a bit more complex than necessary so I knocked up my own simple utility).
2. Copied iGO.db from C710 to PC.
3. Ran iGO POI Explorer and imported iGO.db
4. Imported the .KML file into iGO.db
5. Exported the updated iGO.db to PC.
6. Copied iGO.db back to the C710
That's it - restart MioMap and the new POI's are in the right places under My POI's. All my settings are still there, untouched.
Sal[/quote]
Sally,
Sorry I've found it
http://inetcom.hu/mick/igo/iGOPOIExplorerBeta.zip
Dee[/quote]
Help please
Sally I have been trying to follow the directions but I keep hitting a brick wall at No.4. Each time I try this step I get the following error;
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.
************** Exception Text **************
System.ApplicationException: Cannot parse folder.
at iGO_POI_Explorer.KMLDocument.GetTree()
at iGO_POI_Explorer.MainExplorer.LoadKML(String FileName, String Content)
at iGO_POI_Explorer.MainExplorer.ImportFile(TreeNode SelectedNode)
at iGO_POI_Explorer.MainExplorer.ImportPOIsFromFileLVCxToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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iGO POI Explorer beta
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.637
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.637
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/iGO%20POI%20Explorer%20beta/iGO%20POI%20Explorer%20beta.exe
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Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
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System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
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System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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OpenNETCF.Desktop.Communication
Assembly Version: 2.9.2439.41343
Win32 Version: 2.9.2439.41343
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/iGO%20POI%20Explorer%20beta/OpenNETCF.Desktop.Communication.DLL
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System.Data.SQLite
Assembly Version: 1.0.29.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.29.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/iGO%20POI%20Explorer%20beta/System.Data.SQLite.DLL
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System.Data
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Data/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.dll
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System.Transactions
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Transactions/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Transactions.dll
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System.Security
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Security/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Security.dll
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Accessibility
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
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System.Web
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Web/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.dll
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System.Data.SqlXml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Data.SqlXml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.SqlXml.dll
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Microsoft.VisualC
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.00.50727.42
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualC/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualC.dll
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System.EnterpriseServices
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.EnterpriseServices.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.
When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.
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rronaldson
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Tried this iGO POI Explorer beta.exe but when I try an run it a problem is reported and it closes down. i tried puting igo.db in same folder but it makes no difference. Any tips on this.
BTW I reported in another thread that I am having problems backing up my settings in User Data Management. This seems to occur when I introduce the larger igo.db with "My POIs" on it. Anyone else having this kind of problem?
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Sallyann
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How are you two generating the .kml file from .asc ? i.e. what tool are you using?
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rronaldson
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sallyann wrote: | How are you two generating the .kml file from .asc ? i.e. what tool are you using?
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Ah .... I'm rather embarrssed to say that I don't remember at the moment. I think I downloaded the kml files from a POI website which I am frantically trying to find again. I have files like
Harry_Ramsdens.kml
Accident_Black_Spots_UK.kml
National_Trust.kml
I am assembling them in an igo.db using PdI_Igo_Gest.exe
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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No forget my previous post  These look like POI's from the GPSWorld site. I'll have anoyther look to see how I greated the kml files.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Sallyann wrote: | How are you two generating the .kml file from .asc ? i.e. what tool are you using?
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POI edit 4.5.1 |
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Sal,
I'm sure I used POIEdit.exe to convert the ov2 files from the GPSWorld zip files. They do work OK on my MIO except that I can't backup my settings on the Mio. It's crossed my mind that it's backing up the POIs as well but however long I leave it the backup does not seem to finish.
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