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TT Navigator 6 - Received from TomTom this morning
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hope68
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know if u have to do it or not. But thats the only way i can think of that TT gets to know the device ur using.

This ist TT-Home:
http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&query=tomtom+home&FID=4274
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrac wrote:
for all those with an hp 2210 worrying about tt6 compatability check this page it clearly lists it as compatible.
Edit once Mike Alder to sort link text out.


It's already been stated by one of the mods to be careful about this listing but this formal response from TomTom in relation to issues I have had re TT5 and the Mio P550 (another device on Handtecs list) may help others better understand the real position they would find themselves in if they contact TT support.

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Our End Users License Agreement states that our products are non-transferable and can only be activated on any one device at any one time. As an extension to this our company has an internal policy not to provide activations for non-compatible devices as when (this usually does happen), the item malfunctions during use, we are asked to provide another activation code. Our license does not extend to this.

As for the vendor, the vendor has a duty of care not to sell our products without us officially supporting the bundle he/she is creating. If the PDA is not on our compatibility list then when problems arise, this will be down to the vendor and not us as we have our compatibility list online and accessible to everyone. We have already escalated this matter through the correct channels and the vendor will be contacted in due course to have this situation resolved.

Having said that, if customers persist, we will grant one activation on a non-compatible device. This would be granted under the condition that the product will not be activated under any circumstances for at least 180 days on another PDA regardless of the reason. It will then be at your own discretion. If it malfunctions (the usual malfunction being that it will generate a new device code and thus ask for another activation), you will not receive this activation


It is worth noting that I have responded to TT stating that they too have a duty of care and that their policy should be up front explaining what their compatibility list means on the same web page. This has been escallated and I am awaiting a response
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in all the time of using V6, I have never yet got it to see CF cards, just the 4GB SD card. So I install each map to SD Card to see if it is recognised first, then if not, to CF Card. I get to see that map if it is compatible, by removing (partially SD Card) and time of changing map and it sees CF Card and the Maps, but even TomTom Home v1.3 (which I think is latest version) still does not recognise CF Card. Any way, USA and Canada works fine on v650.1109, but I am only testing 6.010 (7720). Sorry, but I have not been in the office for awhile and presumably there is already a new version awaiting installation
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the advert this morning, but no obvious way to buy. In any case with the minimal support, laughable routing and badly out of date and inaccurate maps I won't be giving TomTom any more money unless I see some very detailed and excellent reviews. Yesterday I spent a few hours driving from Prince Edward Island to St John, New Brunswick and much of the time TomTom was showing me as much as 1000m off the freeway I was on. On PEI it chose dirt roads and back roads instead of the main roads when asked for the fastest route. As a systems and software engineer with 22 years on the job I don't easily overlook shoddy work in others.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given that TomTom don't supply trial versions of their software and don't have the greatest of customer care reputations I don't think we should get too excited about the pricipal of people buying ebay software just to try it.

Would you want to spend big money on new software that might or not work with your pocket PC? Certainly before lashing out on the real thing it might be not unreasonable to try an ebay version. Indeed many software manufacturers supply time limited software and gain a great many legitimate sales as a result.

The forum cannot condone piracy but how many of us have knowingly (or for that matter unknowingly installed) software that turned out to be a copy?
How many of us have copied CD's?
How many of us verify the genuine nature of all the software on our PC's or take the trouble to find out if the download site is legitimate?
Probably.
Let's not get too hasty in accusing accusing people of using pirate software simply because they have received it before the official launch date. The chances are that perfectly legitimate software will have been sold early by the resellers.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Anybody working on a review of TomTom Navigator 6? Reply with quote

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is anyone working on a review of TomTom Navigator 6?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Tomtom 6 on X51V Reply with quote

nmbaker wrote:
Well in all the time of using V6, I have never yet got it to see CF cards, just the 4GB SD card. So I install each map to SD Card to see if it is recognised first, then if not, to CF Card. I get to see that map if it is compatible, by removing (partially SD Card) and time of changing map and it sees CF Card and the Maps, but even TomTom Home v1.3 (which I think is latest version) still does not recognise CF Card. Any way, USA and Canada works fine on v650.1109, but I am only testing 6.010 (7720). Sorry, but I have not been in the office for awhile and presumably there is already a new version awaiting installation


Sorry it's a bit OT
nmbaker,
how's X51V performing on TT6 in landscape mode?.I have had issues with TT5 running on landscape mode and on 2D map view.TIA
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought TTN 6 via Palm (US) last week. It comes with a 1GB SD card (this is for Palm/Treo). Card also works in Windows Mobile. You also get a DVD with TT software and maps (entire us/canada map plus several smaller sections if space is limited somehow). Entire US Canada plus software fits in something like 973MB, including the POI's that come with it. I loaded the DVD onto my 2GB SD card and just saved their card, as I already have a bunch of stuff running on my card due to limited memory on the Treo 650. Everything runs great, and has not crashed/hung yet.
Documentation is VERY limited for a newbie to TomTOm like me. GLad for this group.
Here are a couple observations on my situation:
1. traffic/weather updates via internet connection on phone--TomTom server often reports "not available", even when in good reception area
2. contact navigation requires the default Palm contact app--does not work with a 3rd party contact file like KeySuite (which I use, but workaround this by populating the native Palm app, too)
3. calls come in fine on phone while navigating--not with a bt headset, though. Only 1 bt device at a time.
4. very long routes take a long time to compute. Routes into complex areas, like NYC take longer, too.
5. auto recalculation after missing a turn is fast and impressive (never had a GPS program do this well before--pardon me if this is old news to TT veterans)
6. voice directions are clear and very audible just using the Treo speaker. I am surprised at this. Very good.
7. map and directions on little Treo screen are just fine for driving. Better than I had thought.
8. can shut down Treo on long stretch, start back up and immediately resume routing, saving battery, etc. Seems to save route data and destination somehow if you go momentarily to another app.
Sorry if you folks already know all this. I am quite happy with this setup and it works really well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi all,
i am newbie, but i want to try TT6 insteadof buying TT One GB
as i have Palm T3 for the last 2yrs +

does it work with palm Tungsten3?
i can't find T3 in tt website compaitability list!

does box has leads suitable connection for T3
how can we charge TT gps receiver as well as T3 !

do we have to buy pda holder and reciver fixer

which is best one to buy

i would appreciate all ur help.

cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the tro that mike has is a treo 650 i think that runs windows mobile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alix776 wrote:
the tro that mike has is a treo 650 i think that runs windows mobile

Treo 650 is Palm OS. Treo 700 comes in Windows Mobile and Palm flavors. Treo 650 and 700W, 700P are the only Palm devices listed as compatible. I tried it (just to see) on my Tungsten T and it would not load.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed as you can see im not up on the palm stuff Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes it's discaceful isn't it. Fancy moaning about theft. After all its a free country and we should all be free to steal what we like. Rolling Eyes[/quote]

Its not theft, its copyright infringement.

Theft is if you take something phisical without payment

By downloading something that you would never have bought in the first place you are not deniging anyone of income so its not theft.

Take a car is theft copying a DVD or computer program is copyright infringement.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its not theft, its copyright infringement.
Intellectual Property is capable of being sold and can be stolen.

"Copyright infringement" is breaking the law, just like theft. It's just not the same crime as theft.

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Theft is if you take something phisical without payment
No it isn't - but it would take a long time to explain. Theft doesn't have to involve anything physical. The money in your bank account isn't "physical". The credit on your credit card doesn't even exist until someone spends it. Theft involves dishonestly taking the property of another intending that to permanently deprive them of it. Property doesn't have to be physical.

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By downloading something that you would never have bought in the first place you are not denying anyone of income so its not theft.
And that's stupidly wrong. If you steal a car you wouldn't have bought "in the first place", it's theft. If you illegally copy software, you are breaking the law - it doesn't matter why you are doing it.

In practice, your chances of being caught are virtually nil - unless you load it onto a company asset - and the penalty for being caught is likely to be the cost of the original licence at most.

The person making the illegal copies is at greater risk.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeM132 wrote:
alix776 wrote:
the tro that mike has is a treo 650 i think that runs windows mobile

Treo 650 is Palm OS. Treo 700 comes in Windows Mobile and Palm flavors. Treo 650 and 700W, 700P are the only Palm devices listed as compatible. I tried it (just to see) on my Tungsten T and it would not load.



TomTom 4 & 5 didn't work on the Palm Tungsten T [nor T2] either. Both TomTom 4 & 5 were officially supported on T3 & T5 but these are not now listed on TomTom 6 supported hardware list :-(

Would be very interested to know if TomTom 6 worked on a Tungsten T3 [I use with TomTom 5] even if not officially supported as hardware/PalmOS similar to Treo 650 but without the phone functionality. I guess TT want you to have a Palm with built in phone [i.e. Treo] inorder to easily support their plus service [gives them revenue] - on Palm TomTom 5, could only simultaneously use TomTom plus service with a wired gps receiver due to the single connection limit on Palm bluetooth
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