Safety Camera Fees - Details

Etwell · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject:

***"what improvements we feel that the fees will be able to fund. If they produce a 99.9% accurate database from month to month by paying staff to work on the job full time"***

I think there is little prospect of anything near 80% let alone higher. Having a paid member of staff will not be able to bring this about because to do that requires the acurate and continuing flow information in the first place.

By charging a fee PGPSW is effectively cutting off that information from all those who were more than happy to help when there was no talk of fees. Only fee payers will contribute in the future and there may not be as many of those as some people suppose.

However this may all be of little relavence as the Government is now committed to reign in the spread of cameras and having some of the more spurious ones removed. In future they will only be at known accident blackspots and not scattered about all over the place as at present.

This might suggest that the present database will not grow by very much and might in fact have to be substantially pruned in order to be 'up to date'.

So what are we being asked to pay our money for? A reduced database by the look of things.

iankb · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

Ako · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject:

Tatsfield wrote:

pip510 · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject:

Well I have said it before and I will say it again!
Is £2.00 should a big deal when you think what little way it goes out in the real world blimey if you read all the threads covered on this issue on here I am sure that you would have clocked up that amount on electric bills.
Yes I can see people's point that they have contributed to the site before, well so have I but in the end I want to be able to upload speed cams to my Sat Nav device and will pay the fee as I think it is much better than the consequences of not paying and not getting to know of where a cam is.
I just hope that others are still willing to submit cams as if they dont we all suffer and thats what this forum is about surely being mutually benificial to ALL.
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Tatsfield · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject:

feenix · Banned Joined: Oct 26, 2004 Posts: 27

Due to work commitments I've not been to the forum for some time. As a result I've just spent ages reading about the charging model.
Aparently its not likely to affect me as I have contributed in the past.
What strikes me though, is the number of complaints.
This service has been free to most people for longer than you would expect from such a valuable asset.
Intstead of being ungrateful for the fact that we may have to pay in the future, look on it as more of a 'how much you've saved over the free period.
Another point to bear in mind is how the Admin on this site seem to have gone to great lengths to show their gratitude for past involvment in the database and indeed are looking at ways of rewarding future contributors.
I for one, would like to say a huge thank you to all involved.

Andrew83 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 18, 2005 Posts: 8

I do support the charge, afterall it is cheaper than TomTom's charge for such a service and I have been using your database for 6 months now - I have never come across a camera that has not been in the database. However, a friend of mine has the official TomTom database on their version of Navigator - one very useful feature is that the TomTom one tells you the speed limit when warning of a camera. Do Pocketgpsworld have any plans to implement this?

Privateer · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject:

Hi Andrew83,

Ako · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject:

Tatsfield wrote:

Ako · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject:

Andrew83 wrote:

cupra · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 09, 2005 Posts: 30

Most of you are completely missing the point.
If this was all their own work and they had built it from scratch no one would begrudge them £2/month. The point is, this is something that people contributed to BECAUSE it was free.
If the contact page had said 'Please everyone send all the speed camera updates possible so in 12 months time we can start charging and make ourselves a killing' I don't think as many people would have taken the time and effort to contribute.

The other point is the level of pricing, they are obviously looking to make a big profit from this, again if it was just to cover costs no-one would complain.

COLINRG · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 91

I've read the first few pages - can't be bothered to read every post.

My own view is that those who are providing this site and providing the camera database are doing a vey good job indeed.

I have contributed to the camera database and may get some free months, but if not what the heck. I'll glady pay the annaul subscription for someone else to do the work in compiling the database in a version for my TomTom. Driving over 50,000 miles a year I need to camera database to alert me of the scamera sites out there. I also have a RoadAngel who's database is no where near as good as the PocketGPS one.

RoadAngel subscription annual = £49.00
PocketGPS subscription annual = £19.00

I know where my money will be going and I'm willing to contribute to the database to make it even better.

A lot of people what something for nowt - well lifes not like that.
You get nowt for nowt these days.

Keep up the good work - my Ipaq and TomTom wouldn't be working if it wasn't for this site.

Aitch2 · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject:

...and so say (most) of us! 8)

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daveey · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 04, 2005 Posts: 15

the pocket GPS database is ok if you want a sub standard level of protection, it fails to compete with the accuracy and daily frequency of updates that a professional organisdation such as origin B2 and roadangel supply for £50.00 per year. I have bought a B2 and frequently find omissions / errors on the pocket GPS database compared with the B2.

So be warned a product that is updated only 12 times per year and where persons can gain free subsciption for supplying fake sites is in my opinion totally flawed.

And before you criticise my comments please remember this is my opinion, based on factual comparitive evidence between the origin and pocket GPS world.

Remember the strap line "pocket GPS database turns professional" well its not a professional database just becasuse you have to pay for it

gd2 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 23, 2005 Posts: 9

I intend to pay for the service when it goes subscription but I have two questions.

1) Why is a single contribution before the deadline worth lifetime free subscription yet after the deadline its worth just £2., surely new contributions have just as much value if not more in keeping the database accurate?

2) Why only credit for static cameras, surely mobile ones are just as valuable?

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