V.5 Multiple instructions - potential dangerous

calypso

With V.5, The TTG seems to be very keen on giving you multiple instructions even if the secondary instruction refers to a turn which is a long way away.

For example Jane will say "Turn right then turn left", even if the second (left) turn is two blocks (and two sets of traffic lights) ahead!

To me "Turn right then turn left" should only apply when the second (left) turn immediately follows the first (right) turn.

This usually means you have to refer to the screen at busy junctions to determine where you should turn. This was not the case with the previous version

Definitely a safety issue here.
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JOHN

washbrook · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject:

Hi..

I have to agree with this one, I have found this too with v5.

Cheers
Dave

Cee_Jay · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 12, 2004 Posts: 14

Yeh I noticed that gotcha today as well. Nearly caught me out as I'd just had a right turn followed by an immediate left turn when it said '...then turn left'. However, I spotted, at the last moment, that the immediate left turn was 'No Entry' and that the left turn I actually needed was a couple of hundred yards further on. Definitely didn't have the time to check the screen to confirm the instruction.

Chris

calypso · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:50 am Post subject:

I have contacted TomTom and will let you know what their response is.
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JOHN

Jammy1 · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 63

I agree with this. There also seems to be an increase "at the end of the road" use. I.e. where I live I turn right then left after about 25 yards. Version 442 use to say "turn right then turn left". Now I get "at the end of the road turn right then at the end of the road turn left". This is follwed by "turn right and turn left" when I am about to turn, it can get confusing. It seems to much information for poor Jane to keep up with sometimes. The extra warning of motorway exits is welcome though.

Ugly-Kid-Joe · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject:

Do you think this could be due to not having the updated maps that V 5.00 was written for. Its only a thought. Rolling Eyes

calypso · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject:

Here is TomTom's response:

"Thanks for your feedback.

The secondary instruction is not a new feature with 5,00.
The instruction is given to make it easier for the driver to be able to change the car position before the next turn.

If you standing in the left line and need to turn right you actually have the chance to be in correct position before you need to turn right.

We hope to have answered your question to your satisfaction.
With best regards,"

I'm sorry TomTom, but it IS different in V.5.

If it was a question of positioning, then the instruction should be "then, keep right" and not "then, turn right".

Either that, or a simple "right turn ahead" would be more appropriate.
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JOHN

Oldboy · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject:

HOG · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 15, 2005 Posts: 114

This is worrying me as I specifically bought TTG to navigate across Europe down to Bavaria.

It will be very hard to navigate in a foriegn country if the instructions are as confusing as you say.

Perhaps I should revert back to 4.42?

There is a mention on this post about the map versions. How do I check my map versions and how do I update them to the V5 copies?

Thnx

bmwman · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:

Been on a few trips over the weekend with v5 and I'd agree that the new update seems to act differently to the earlier version.

Previously, the "Turn left then turn right" type of instruction seemed to only occur on instances such as offset crossroads.

However, it now appears to provide the second instruction much more frequently. I can't give a categorical cut-off figure, but yesterday I was getting the second instrction at up to 375 yards between junctions.

I'd agree with the earlier postings that this can be somewhat misleading.

Getting a "turn right then turn left" is fine if there is up to (say) one hundred yards between the two junctions, but at appraoching 400 yards between junctions it is somewhat superflous.

Perhaps it's something I'll grow to get used to over time....... Confused

Regards,
Rich

Oldboy · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:

bmwman · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:21 am Post subject:

This issue is perhaps even more irksome/dangerous than I'd thought.

I've finally got my cradle mounting sorted on the motorbike with a sound feed into the helmet speakers so I road tested it this morning on the way to work.

Coming up to a roundabout on the outskirts of Warwick I got "Turn left at the roundabout, first exit, then turn right".

Having taken the turn I looked at the machine to assess the distance and it was 0.35 miles to the right turn ie more than 600 yards. To my mind that's downright daft, and potentially dangerous.

Regards,
Rich

calypso · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject:

I agree entirely.

Instead of "Turn left at the roundabout, first exit, then turn right", it should say something like "Turn left at the roundabout, first exit, then right turn ahead" if the right turn is not very close.
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JOHN

Wonderwall · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject:

If you think about it, Its quiet a good idea you just need to get used to it, allows you more time to get into the correct lane...give it more time...."Im a driving Instuctor".....

Patrick_uk · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject:

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