Two cameras shown where only one exists

willmow · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 167

I've recently submitted corrections to three (well-known) sites where the PGPSW map incorrectly shows two cameras where, actually, one reversible camera exists. Am I right to do this - after all, the map correctly shows other sites as having a reversible camera, so should this principle not apply throughout the system?

And do I get a life membership for my efforts? Smile

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:17 am Post subject:

This is deliberate. If the reversible cam is on a dual carriageway, TomTom will sometimes not alert if the reversible cam is shown on the 'other' track, so its 'mate' is included 'on the oither carriageway' so that it will alert.

willmow · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 167

Oh, ok. And I though I was being clever Crying or Very sad

DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:47 am Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject:

willmow · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 167

Interesting.

Dare I say, I'm a bit discombobulated by the fog you experts appear to live in (again, I mean that in the nicest possible way.... Wink

). If even you disagree as to what is fact (directionality, TomTom issues et al) than what hope have we poor foot soldiers?

Andy_P · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject:

Sorry... we anoraks do tend to get a bit carried away!

The simple answer is...
We used to add ONE camera location in the middle of the dual carriageway, but people sometimes found they didn't get alerts for them when travelling in one direction or the other.
(presumably this was due to the slight variations of positioning on different brands and different maps).
Re-doing just those problem cameras with TWO markers, one on each carriageway, was a quick and easy "fix".
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DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject:

There certainly is a lorra lorra fog about!

First, it's not really of concern to you if TomTom alerts directionally or not, because you have a Garmin, so that's a bit off topic anyway.

Second, all us "experts" are merely longer experienced users just like you.

Third, Andy is certainly using a different TomTom device from mine and there are differences between them (he's on much more recent firmware than two of mine) and I also use an iPhone running the iOS version of the database.

Fourth, I have a TomTom device which alerts for everything under the sun (pgpsw database), irrespective of direction.

Fifth, I have another TT device which allegedly alerts only for directional TomTom (not pgpsw) camera records, but I have on several occasions been warned by it both ways, or from after I've passed one (making me think it's warniing for reflections!).

Sorry soldier, you got it right about us being at odds with one another, so you don't have a snowball's chance in hell!!!

There is a difference between Garmin and TomTom (and probably others) maps. Don't ask me why - I think it's because GPS coordinates can only give a limited accuracy (5 metres?). But one set of coordinates results in a camera in a layby on a TomTom, but off to the side (5 metres into a field) on a Garmin. To overcome that problem, we try to position our coordinates in the middle of the carriageway so that we get it right for either device. In some cases, this results in a camera being warned for both directions.

One system which gets it right directionally every time is the PGPSW CamerAlert version running on my iPhone.

Maybe to clear the fog - if you get a warning, react as if there's a camera there and you won't be far wrong!! If you can't see a camera, feel free to submit a removal request. And KEEP TAKING THE TABLETS. Laughing

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willmow · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 167

Tablets taken. Am now lying down in a darkened room. Thanks!

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject:

willmow · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Posts: 167

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:06 am Post subject:

Kremmen · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:34 am Post subject:

A bit cumbersome but I have an option to remove 'duplicate' cameras. I did it to remove the ones on motorways where they are on the same gantries but opposite carriageways:

Unfortunately the HTML checker won't let me post the code Sad

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