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Mark57
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: New Gatso sites Reply with quote

I am the first to submit 2 new gatso camera sites - they have the camera posts erected and road markings but not cameras at the moment - does this count as viable submission or do the actual cameras have to be fixed in place ?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the actual camera would need to be in place. otherwise it could just be a new sign, or traffic monitoring etc...

MaFt

ps - how do you KNOW you were first?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are camera posts which have the arm ready for the camera to be attached + the new road marking are the same as other truvelo cameras .

when I submitted the sites a black square with a cross is on the submission map so I take it I''m the first.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if I drive past the location tomorrow to 'verify' it, it will be rejected because there is no camera there.

Best bet is to wait until the camera is fully installed!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK thanks for the advice.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark57 wrote:

when I submitted the sites a black square with a cross is on the submission map so I take it I''m the first.


No, that's not correct....

The only cameras shown on the map are the VERIFIED ones, and you also see YOUR OWN submissions of new cameras.
You DON'T see other people's submissions before they have been confirmed, so there is no way to tell from the map if you were the first.

To be honest I thought that information was on the submission map page, but I could not see it there when I looked just now.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P wrote:
and you also see YOUR OWN submissions of new cameras.
I assumed that this is what Mark saw. He mentions a black cross
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but the point is you don't see other people's submissions, and they may have been made long before yours.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in MOST cases the 'cross hairs' icon means it was first BUT this is not 100% - pretty good rule of thumb though.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be aware that it is often the case that we get many submissions for new fixed cameras and the criterion for award includes the word "ACCURATE". There's a thread (which I can't find somewhere) in which MaFt showed the sort of scattergun, shotgun effect of multiple submissions, with locations spread along the roadside. He usually chooses the mean average centre location. That means if a Verifier comes along and agrees the new camera, BUT wants it relocated a little way up or down the road, one of the other submissions may get it. Remember, there may well be a whole host of other members who are convinced they submitted an absolutely spot on location!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm just putting the finishing touches to my 'a week in the life of the pocketgpsworld.com database admin' article which should perhaps give a bit more information on the admin side of things... you'll see it on the front page once i get chance to finalise it all

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll wait, and watch it when the movie comes out! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't B Movies go direct to DVD?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
... you'll see it on the front page once i get chance to finalise it all

For those of us that seldom visit the front page would you please alert us to its release via the forum, MaFt. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anita wrote:
MaFt wrote:
... you'll see it on the front page once i get chance to finalise it all

For those of us that seldom visit the front page would you please alert us to its release via the forum, MaFt. Cool


yes, it will also have a forum post (like all news items do)
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