Europe Vs UK Speed displays

M8TJT · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Europe Vs UK Speed displays

Hi All. A bit of a weird question from someone who should perhaps know better, but here goes.
The UK and Europe & NI databases are different. The reason given is that UK speeds are in MPH and the others are in some kind of foreign stuff (Kilogrammes per hour, I believe Very Happy

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Now my Mio 3.2 displays the speed as is, from behind the @ sign as in Gatso12345@70 and seems to be totally unaware of where I am (as far as speed units is concerned) . Now if I were to venture forth across the water, if there were a camera called Gatso12345@70 located there, then it would still be displayed as Gatso 70 There is no conversion done from MPH to KPH or otherwise even if you alter the basic units to metric. The cam readout stays the same.
As far as I can see, it would matter not if the databases were combined (apart from size) as the cam software just blindly follows the number after the @ symbol. So if I am driving on the continent and a cam pops up at 110, I know that this is in KPH not MPH because I amd driving on the continent.
Does other Sat Nav software behave differently?
There must be an obvious reason that I just can't see. Doh Rolling Eyes

gardenshed · Frequent Visitor Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Posts: 466

what if it says 60? is that 60mph or 60kph? one is nearly twice the speed of the other, well the best part of twice. I would suggest that is why they are separate, and there is a lot of info that generally we don't need to download on a regular basis.

PaulB2005 · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject:

aj2052 · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:48 am Post subject:

I dont know how the unit reads the camera entries, or if its possible to add letters after the@70, i.e. @70gb and @70kmh if the unit could distinguish between them then would it be possible to uilise two set of voices and two sets of bmp files renamed correspondingly, one speaking at 70 mile and 70 kph and also using the camera pictures with the mph and kmh at the bottom, i know its a bit of a pain but the voices and bmp icons would only have to be done once and possibly worthwhile if you do a lot of cross border travel, i am thinking of tomtoms and ov2 files, just a thought and dont know if its feasible.
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M8TJT · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject:

What a coincidence!
I just signed up a colleague for the speedcam database today, and because he wanted the euro cameras too (something I've never bothered about) I got to thinking along exactly the same lines as you M8TJT.

Certainly for most brands, the ACTUAL speed is irrelevant, all we need is for the correct icon to be shown when we get near a particular point in space, so the databases COULD be combined.

As an aside....
This colleague has two Gos, one had UK maps AND Western Europe (don't ask me why!) and the other had Western Europe and Eastern Europe. So he wanted the UK camera files on the UK map and BOTH the UK and Europe camera files on the two western Europe maps AND just the Europe camera files on the Eastern Europe map!
Plus of course the replacement icons in both flavours and sizes AND some voice files for all of them!

Then he announced he wanted to change the email address for two TomTom accounts, but I found one of the NEW addresses had ALREADY been set up as a third TT account, when he abortively tried to put both machines on one account.
So I had to juggle three names and three accounts....

I started at 2pm and I've JUST finished. Shocked

(We gave up trying to get Mapshare updates. Rolling Eyes

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mikealder · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

GerryC · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject:

Having the two sets separate also allows you to use different icons and voice alerts for the different types of camera - eg the UK ones could say "Camera, 30mph" and the Euro ones "Camera, 30 kilometres per hour". Also, the icons can show slightly different fonts and could even have the conversion underneath if you wish. Hint, see sig. Wink

A bigger problem with the idea that I can see is what distance to warn you at. 300yds is fine for a 30mph camera but a 30km/h camera would want the warning at 180yds using the 100yds per 10mph rule.
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gardenshed · Frequent Visitor Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Posts: 466

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