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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Swindon Council reviews Speed Cameras' usage Reply with quote

Interesting story from the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/7506689.stm
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the roads would be safer (at the same cost) if they employed 10 people at £25k specifically for driving around actually manning the roads and still have £150k left for fuel etc!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this originally this morning. Ten minutes later a letter dropped on my door mat with a fixed penalty notice for speeding on the M4 outside Swindon of all places.
Karma?

Far cop, I'll come quietly, but what hacked me off was that I speed up to get out of the way of an unmarked police car with the lights on... I did speak to the very nice people at Wiltshire Police, who did advise me that I should have slowed down to get in a gap!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:
Far cop, I'll come quietly, but what hacked me off was that I speed up to get out of the way of an unmarked police car with the lights on... I did speak to the very nice people at Wiltshire Police, who did advise me that I should have slowed down to get in a gap!


what, and then get prosecuted for getting in their way?!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bad luck Simon, nice post though Shocked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Swindon Council reviews Speed Cameras' usage Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:
Interesting story from the BBC


Ain't it queer that when speed cameras stop making a profit, the councils suddenly lose interest in operating these fantastic road safety devices. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:
a fixed penalty notice for speeding on the M4 outside Swindon

Do you know which mobile it was that got you - have I seen it operating recently?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Location was, according to the very good (secure) website.

M4 (W/BOUND)
BET JCT 16 & 17 AT MP 141/5 (SITE MA6)


Other interesting facts about this location are:

Site length in kilometres (approximate) 2.0
BASELINE FIGURES (supplied to DFT prior to site approval)
Collisions involving fatalities or serious injury 4
Collisions involving any injury 14
Speed at which 85% of motorists were travelling at or below (mph) 81
Motorists exceeding the speed limit (percentage) 52

This is an image of the type of enforcement vehicle that will be used for speed enforcement on the M4 motorway in Wiltshire.

For Health & Safety reasons we are unable to provide actual site photographs of the speed enforcement vehicle. Enforcement at this site is carried out from a vehicle stationed on a nearby motorway overbridge, as per attached example.


More details can be found at http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/sites.asp and type in MA6.

I hope this helps?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's the pair of mobiles in our database numbers 7033 (westbound) and 14111 (eastbound) - I think MaFt will confirm that I regularly report them as active/seen again, indeed I did so only day before yesterday, Monday - seen operating 10:15am Sunday 13th July 2008.

Didn't you have them on your satnav?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - they are there, but I use my mobile phone for Sat Nav and was using it (hands free) so no alert!

The interesting thing is that I was clocked over 450m away. That is some distance!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:

The interesting thing is that I was clocked over 450m away. That is some distance!


That's why a lot of us use the "ten times the speed in yards" rule for fixed cameras but at least DOUBLE that for mobile sites.

So at 70MPH, Gatsos, Specs etc. warn me at 700 yards but I have Mobiles set to warn at 1400 yards!

This is also why most readar warning systems are useless for mobiles, by the time it picks up a signal, you've already been 'done'!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:
For Health & Safety reasons we are unable to provide actual site photographs of the speed enforcement vehicle. Enforcement at this site is carried out from a vehicle stationed on a nearby motorway overbridge, as per attached example. [/i]

More details can be found at http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk/sites.asp and type in MA6.

This is an absolute classic!

The use of "Health and Safety" for excuses is very poor, especially when you use the link, that Simon has proved, and look at "MA6" where you will see that on the official web sites somebody has taken a photo of the vehicle whilst standing in the central reservation, which I think is far more dangerous than even doing so from the hard shoulder with a vehicle parked to protect you from approaching vehicles! Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And just in case anybody cares, the actual picture in question is of Mobile:14114, looking Eastbound, nearly at M4 Junction 15. Strangely, I haven't seen that one in operation for several months now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Andy_P"]
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So at 70MPH, Gatsos, Specs etc. warn me at 700 yards but I have Mobiles set to warn at 1400 yards!

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You me too...after my wife was done at an incredible distance, and I asked for the photo...amazing detail...no argument.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have not seen any in a while, normally you see a lot in blunstone country, or whatever his name is, N,Wales Rolling Eyes
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