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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: Map activation -- not being prompted for code??? |
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I have a TT ONE and it's working fine now I have a 2GB SD card for it. I bought the MOWE CDs and installed the Spanish map for our holiday there earlier this Summer and it was good -- not fully up to date but there's so much road development going on there it's not surprising (wish the same could be said for UK!).
However, I now want to add the Italy map. I can install the files using the setup program, but I'm not prompted for an activation code at any time. Italy does not appear on the list of maps on the TT ONE and the files that have been copied there are deleted by TT ONE on startup.
So this is a very simple/silly question. How do I get the TT ONE to prompt me to enter the activation code? I'm sure I'm missing something very obvious!
thanks for your help
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thebinman Banned
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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If you've used the activation code for one map off the CD that is all you need.
Any other maps off THE SAME CD will not need activating separately.
Basically you've activated the CD. |
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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thanks, thebinman. That's good to know.
But how come my map goes onto the TT ONE but is not visible in the "switch map" option and there are almost no files in the Italy-map directory? I even tried installing the maps to a PC-based directory and copying them over to my TT ONE manually but the same thing happened.
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10642 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried a Reset? _________________ Richard
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TuurG Frequent Visitor
Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Haarlem, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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How many files do you see?
You should see a similar set of files (but different sizes) as the Spain map.
Do you see files like cname.dat, cnodes.dat, faces.dat, mapinfo.dat, italia.mid, italia.pna, etc? _________________ GO1005
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I've now had time to sit down and look at this again. This is what I've tried:
1. reset
2. installed Italia_plus. "Installation complete"
3. reset again
4. went to "switch maps" -- Italy not there
5. reset again
6. installed Italia_plus again. "Installation complete"
7. checked the files on TTONE using explorer before quitting the TT installer. The list of files in Italia_Plus-Map is:
cline.dat, cname.dat, cnode.dat, faces.dat, italia_plus-3275b08f.mac, italia_plus.mid, italia_plus.pna, mapinfo.dat, poi.dat, tmccodes.dat, traffic.dat
8. quit TT installer. TTONE auto restarted
9. before doing anything else, removed the USB wire then replaced it to put TTONE into drive mode again
10. checked the files on TTONE using explorer. The list of files now is:
italia_plus-3275b08f.mac, poi.dat, setup.dat
11. removed USB wire and allowed TTONE to start up
12. as expected, "Switch maps" did not show Italia.
What's going on? Why are these files being deleted? Is there a control file on the TTONE that tells it what country maps are installed? I presume there must be, and that if Italia_Plus is not in it then it wipes the directory. And where does the "setup.dat" file come from if it's not put there by the map install routine? Is this a TTONE problem, a Maps of Western Europe problem, or something else? Is it worth reinstalling the TTONE software from scratch, and what will I lose if I do this?
Help!
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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The activation code is stored in the internal flash of the ONE, that's why you don't get asked to re-enter it.
Are you running 6.14 by any chance? That one had an issue with multiple maps. _________________ Lutz
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: |
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lbendlin wrote: | The activation code is stored in the internal flash of the ONE, that's why you don't get asked to re-enter it.
Are you running 6.14 by any chance? That one had an issue with multiple maps. |
The version numbers I have:
- App 5.450 (5652/060328)
- OS 1011
- GPS v1.21
- Boot 4.28
- Map 'Great_Britain-Map' v605
- Map 'Iberia_Plus-Map' v632
If 6.14 had an issue with multiple maps, was there a fix available? Should I, for example, delete the Iberia map and start from scratch with the MOWE CDs?
I am tempted -- and my wife suggests -- to just send the whole thing back to TomTom and start again!! There's clearly a bug somewhere. |
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thebinman Banned
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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6.15 (latest) is meant to have sorted a few problems out and I notice you have bootloader 4.28. The latest is 4.29.
Try using TThome to update to 6.15 and see if that sorts it. |
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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thebinman wrote: | 6.15 (latest) is meant to have sorted a few problems out and I notice you have bootloader 4.28. The latest is 4.29.
Try using TThome to update to 6.15 and see if that sorts it. |
OK, I located TThome and installed it. I then used that to install a new version of the system. My versions are now:
- App 6.15 (7120/060801)
- OS 1222
- GPS v1.21
- Boot 4.28
(note that the Boot version was not incremented).
Following that, I installed the map again several times. There was absolutely no change to the behaviour of this, ie. once the TTONE booted up the files in the Italia_Plus-Map directory were whittled down to:
italia_plus-3275b08f.mac, poi.dat
(note no setup.dat this time?).
So I'm at a loss once more. I guess I'll have to try raising it on the TomTom website and hope they can help. Reasonable next step?
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: TomTom quality of support? |
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I submitted a question on the TomTom website last Friday evening. There has been absolutely no update by TomTom support staff since then.
Is this the normal low quality of service we should expect from TomTom? I'm not impressed. I've threatened to return my TTONE to the retailer as it's clearly not fit for purpose. |
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Can you please reformat the card, and then only install the application and the italian map? _________________ Lutz
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peteward Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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lbendlin wrote: | Can you please reformat the card, and then only install the application and the italian map? |
Well I might be able to, but then it's possible that I wouldn't be able to install the Spanish map. Do you think there's something in the TTONE that allows you to only have 1 non-UK map installed at a time? |
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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No, unless you have a very weird version of TTHome.
I said you should install only the Italy map, not the UK map, and not the Spain map.
No risk no fun. Your alternative is to send the device to TomTom for a replacement, isn't it? _________________ Lutz
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TuurG Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Since you have the MOWE CD's, you will always be able to re-install the Iberia Plus map. Don't worry about that.
Format the SD card, install the Italy map and the 6.15 app. Then check if the map is recognized. This is teh list of files you need to find in the map folder:
cline.dat, cname.dat, cnode.dat, faces.dat, italia_plus-3275b08f.mac, italia_plus.mid, italia_plus.pna, mapinfo.dat, poi.dat, tmccodes.dat, traffic.dat
If that works, then install UK map and Iberia map. Should work. _________________ GO1005
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