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will not work when TTN is installed on storage card and runs from \TomTom (for example). It would be better to shellexecute the lnk file in \windows\start menu\programs (or the local equivalent) _________________ Lutz
Megabytes of download to send 100Kb of data to the PPC that do nothing - Now, some documentation would be nice so we know what we are meant to do (other than send you money which seems the only advice we have got so far). If it does as you say above then fine, you can have my money. Now - what is this about some runtime library we are meant to have? How much memory does it take up, and where do we get it? And is it free?
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:
Hi Ibendlin
Thanks for your notes. Really I had a very busy day. The problem with NSBasic Runtime is sorted. Really it was in the installer, but not the order to install it. So now is corrected and uploaded newly.
The second point will only affect to a few customers, as a normal install of TTN5 do it in Main Memory. Even I was told by my betatester that he tried to install it in SD card and program was installed on Main Memory (?).
The add-on is just a start point, it will be developping furher complexity to cover more needs and special cases. And my customers know I don't speak just to make noise.
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:41 am Post subject:
You will probably want to state the size of the NSB runtime on the Pocket PC (which is substantial) so our users can decide if they want to install that or if they simply want to edit the tomtom.mnu with a text editor.
And as you may know we always recommend to install to Storage Card, so this will affect a few more users than you might have anticipated. _________________ Lutz
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:
Hi Lutz
lbendlin wrote:
You will probably want to state the size of the NSB runtime on the Pocket PC (which is substantial) so our users can decide if they want to install that or if they simply want to edit the tomtom.mnu with a text editor.
And as you may know we always recommend to install to Storage Card, so this will affect a few more users than you might have anticipated.
NSBRuntime can be installed perfectly in SD card, in my pda it does in that way even if I accept default directory. Never asked to George Henne if it was his "maker" decission. So it's not problem the size it takes there, BTW about 98 kb. The program closes down after executed so it's not taking memory whilst TTN is running.
As you may know more than the 50% of my customers came from this forum, so I know very well their installations. But thx for your suggestions. May be I need to repeat again this is a first step. Will follow more with more sofistification but as I need still to work as driver to have my living I will do it in the time I have. _________________ Jose Adell
www.geopostcode.com
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:41 am Post subject:
Nomada wrote:
NSBRuntime can be installed perfectly in SD card, in my pda it does in that way even if I accept default directory. Never asked to George Henne if it was his "maker" decission. So it's not problem the size it takes there, BTW about 98 kb.
I tried that but the installer insists on sending the files to \windows. Makes some sense because it also includes some of the eVB DLLS. It's 1.2MB, by the way.
Nomada wrote:
The program closes down after executed so it's not taking memory whilst TTN is running.
I don't think that's the case - otherwise your demo mode wouldn't work. (you know, with deleting the mnu file afterwards)
Anyways - looking forward to future developments. _________________ Lutz
Joined: Nov 01, 2003 Posts: 131 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:01 am Post subject:
Hi Ibendlin,
[quote="lbendlin"]I tried that but the installer insists on sending the files to \windows. Makes some sense because it also includes some of the eVB DLLS. It's 1.2MB, by the way.
Nomada wrote:
I like the way you de-inform about it... May be you refer to the size of the runtime.ppc.exe. But there are 3 times the libraries for MIPS, SH3 and ARM. So let's say it will be about one third of it.
And may be you run more programs in your PDA needing some of that Microsoft DLL and in that case they will be not installed if they are already. As is the case if yours is not a 2003 SE. Only these need near the totallity. Rest have they built in ROM and will be not charged. But as I don't know what you are running I need to put them in the installer.
But thx again, just try not confuse to readers.
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The program closes down after executed so it's not taking memory whilst TTN is running.
I don't think that's the case - otherwise your demo mode wouldn't work. (you know, with deleting the mnu file afterwards)
You're 100% wrong again. And I challenge you to find my program working once TTN5 has been launched through it. Have a look on Running programs and let me know if you can see it there.
But thx again, just try not confuse to readers.
Now try to install it in an ARM machine, with TTN 5 in main memory as suggested by TomTom, then inform the readers if it does the job, I think it's your job, isn't it?
and they are all installed into %CE2% - which is \Windows if I recall correctly. Would you agree?
So 100% wrong again.
I ignore what that CE folder is. But can see files that are not from NSBasic and a few are from eVB. Regsvrce.exe is one of them. It's a piece of the proper OS of any PDA installed already in Windows folder as every PDA user can confirm without to be programmer. VBscript.dll if I don't recall wrong is a runtime needed to run VB or eVB programmes, again nothing to do with NSBasic or my programme.
I do ignore what experiments you are doing. But having a look inside the nsb file will say you what of those files are and what are not.
The runtime just install a folder named NSBRuntime, as expected.
So in my folder NSBRuntime in SD card I have:
BASIC Runtime Register.nsb 314 bytes (can be removed if wanted)
basic.exe 151 Kb (the proper runtime)
v_remote.exe 97.5 Kb (can be removed if wanted)
and for Windows folder just when needed:
mscepicture.dll 132 kb
mscefile.dll 118 kb
If you have a look on the file NSB you will see there is only two lines for those two DLL above mentioned.
Delete that folder and all its contents. Make a clean install again of my software and then let it know to forum customers what you see there. It will be exactly the same I wrote.
Still waiting for some proof of the program running in the same time as TTN 5 or some thing telling you accepting you were wrong.
As programmers really we don't play the same league, not even the same game...
Have a good day, I go to take my coach. _________________ Jose Adell
www.geopostcode.com
Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:
Nomada wrote:
As programmers really we don't play the same league, not even the same game...
That is very true. I am more used to writing native code, with small programs and well defined installation routines that are tested on multiple localizations.
Good luck with your program. _________________ Lutz
That is very true. I am more used to writing native code, with small programs and well defined installation routines that are tested on multiple localizations.
Joined: Jul 03, 2004 Posts: 197 Location: London, UK
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject:
To me the guy has a bit of an attitude and I wouldn't be to keen on buying anything from him... _________________ TomTom 6 - SPV M5000 and WM6
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