Version 5 advanced warnings

mow · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: Version 5 advanced warnings

I know this topic has been mentioned before, but I have lost the thread in amongst the new topics posted recently/
I have certainly noticed a difference in the frequency of double instructions in version 5. Today I was instructed to "turn left and then turn left" with the second turn some 250 yards away and many side roads between. I must admit I do find this somewhat confusing - to me turn left and then turn left should apply to an immediate next instruction. Without looking at the map (and lets face it is not always possible) one could easily be hesitating when driving expecting to turn immediately.
Does anybody know what Tom Tom have done to the programming and why ?
Appologies if this have been previously answered.

calypso · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject:

See: http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=19299
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mow · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject:

John:-

Thanks for the link !

bmwman · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:

Mow,

If you haven't already done so, it's worth logging on to the TomTom website, creating a My Account, and asking the question. The more people that challenge the design the greater the chance of a a fix.

Regards,
Rich

gingernut777 · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:53 am Post subject:

Oldboy · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:48 am Post subject:

I have no problem with the double warning. It makes me aware that another another change of direction is close by.

'Left and then left' to me means 'turn left and get ready to turn left again. I'll tell you when'. A quick glance at the TTG would confirm this.
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mow · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:52 am Post subject:

May be it's being used to the older version, but to me turn right and then turn right would indicate some immediacy in the instruction. To find other right turns that should be ignored between instructions tends to be misleading. To me its simply the wording - if it was to state turn right and then in 250 yards turn right I would have no problem.
All this said I will continue to support a superb product and all these debates and opinions will hopefully make it even better in the future.

MikeB · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:37 am Post subject:

Lutz has reported the same issue in the US. Here it is far more pronounced. Telling you about the next turn which is miles down the road rather than in a couple of hundred yards.

Personally I like this feature, especially if you have to turn left and then right as you may need to get over a lane or two to perform the right turn.
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HOG · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 15, 2005 Posts: 114

I have had two incorrect instructions which have been bloody dangerous and could hae caused an accident with V5.

It has told me on dual carriageways to take a left to get to my destination only to find it has directed me into a disused dirt track with no possibliity of turning round. Result? I have had to TWICE reverse out onto a dual carriageway.

mow · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject:

bmwman · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject:

My suggestion directly to TomTom has been similar to Mow's - if the distance between the two turnings is greater than (say) 200 yards the messages should change from "Turn left then turn right" to "Turn left then after xxx yards turn right".

Running the TTG on the motorbike means that I rely very heavily on the spoken instructions and the capacity to keep looking down onto the screen is not viable.

Regards,
Rich

jdatkinson · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 29, 2004 Posts: 63

I've only had v5 up and running for a few days, and this change in the voice prompts slightly unnerved me at first. Like using a TTG when you've never used satnav before (which was me in September), I just think it takes a bit of time to get to the unit's turn of phrase. The voice engines and maps on these things will never be perfect, so i'll continue to "overrule" the TTG if my own eyes and the road signs suggest that to be the best option. At the risk of incurring a light flaming, if you think it almost caused an accident, then you are probably relying on it too much. Just my 2p....

JohnBoy59 · Regular Visitor Joined: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 120

But it was ok before!!
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Zuke · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

To be fair to TomTom, there was a minor problem with limited warnings on motorway-type junctions at speed. I agree with MikeB that the new instruction logic is generally an improvement under these conditions, but becomes fatally flawed in low speed congested urban situations.

I tried v5 again today, and in the centre of a small town I was not familiar with, the voice instructions took me into a Safeway car park. Since this was located by a complex one way system, the voice instructions became so verbose and superimposed that they were counterproductive in recovering the journey. Peering at the map display was just not possible while negotiating the junctions.

As JohnBoy59 points out, it was ok before. Nice try, TomTom, but no cigar.

mow · Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject:

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