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herc Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: tom tom one congestion zone extension |
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Does anyone know what tom tom will do when the congestion zone extension will come in to force on Feb 19th.
Is there an update out for my tom tom or plans to push an update out. |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tim Buxton of PGPSW has made an ov2 file of the extended Congestion Charge Zone. You can get it from HERE Just copy and paste the .ov2 and .bmp file to your map folder. It's good and it's free. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar. |
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philip4242 Regular Visitor

Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 123
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: |
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While Tim's POI data will obviously be very useful for those who regularly drive around that area, it won't be as much help to those of us who are only occasional visitors to the area, or who are on routes passing through the area, as the TomTom option to 'Avoid Toll Roads' will still be only avoiding the original Congestion Charge Zone.
As I understand it, it's not always easy to spot the warning signs, before it's too late to turn onto another road to avoid the CCZ.
I realise that I can inspect the route before I set off, looking for the CCZ symbol, but I find that, depending on the map zoom level, only some of the symbols in an area are visible.
If I change the zoom level slightly, other symbols become visible in the same area, whereas symbols which were visible have now disappeared.
Any suggestions ? _________________ Getting older and more senile by the minute !
Philip |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Lost_Property, thanks for the endorsement. I'm trying to make it better but have drawn a blank from TfL who, for some reason, are based in Coventry!
Quote: | Thank you for your enquiry, received 18 January 2007 via email, regarding maps of the Congestion Charging zone.
At present, the only map available from Congestion Charging for London is the one which can be found on our website.
There are some A-Z maps available at retail outlets which highlight the Congestion Charging zone.
I hope this answers your enquiry. |
I've written back and told them, in not so many words, that it's their moral duty to provide accurate maps for free (a website download would do; they don't even have to actually print them!) and for them not to do this would attract accusations of hoping to catch out the unwary. I await their response.
philip4242, the only other thing to do is wait for TeleAtlas/NAVTEQ to supply new data to TomTom containing the information, then for TomTom to make, test, tweak and then release said map for sale. By the time this happens, Red Ken will probably be looking at further extensions.  _________________ Tim |
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herc Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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True Tim and keep up the good work !
Krikey we are expecting this to go live in 4 weeks now where is that sandtimer.
Surely as you mentioned they have to release the details. |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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herc wrote: | Surely as you mentioned they have to release the details. |
Well they have, but not in any usable format.
Quote: | I will log your comments as a customer suggestion however I can only reiterate the information I gave yesterday.
As I am sure you are aware, all roads within the clearly marked boundary roads are inside the zone.
The map on our website does feature a postcode checker which you may find helpful. |
So, they have a postcode checker! Handy if you know each and every postcode, eh? _________________ Tim |
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deep_south Occasional Visitor

Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 22
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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And just to complicate matters, there are a couple of roads that go "through" the CCZ that will still be free - you can see them on the map at their website; the Edgware Rd that is the current western boundary, and the A40 (I think), so you can be "in" the CCZ for free! (Just don't turn off!) |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Red Ken will probably be looking at further extensions. | How long before His Highness extends it to the M25? 8O _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar. |
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bedbug Frequent Visitor
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Joined: May 10, 2006 Posts: 484 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Lost_Property wrote: | How long before His Highness extends it to the M25? |
I heard it was to be 11:35am next Tuesday, but don't quote me on that!  _________________ iPhone 4/4S (iOS 5.1.1); TomTom Western Europe (1.10)/USA & Canada (1.10); CoPilot for iPhone (8), UK mapping, Mac OS 10.8/XP Pro/Win7; Tongue firmly in cheek! |
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Tommyboy Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Just to be clear...The avoid toll roads instruction is part of the actually map release not the Ov2? Hmmm So the revised Ov2...Is that just the additional extension or the whole zone including the extension - Will i need to keep the original poi or replace it
Also, If i for example i aviod toll roads that go part way of the journey but now goes thru the new zone, I guess i will then have to b on my P's&Q's and keep an eye out for roads I can actually turn down as oppose to roads the tomtom is suggesting - What a nightmare |
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davideo0 Lifetime Member

Joined: Oct 17, 2005 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Tim Buxton"]Lost_Property, thanks for the endorsement. I'm trying to make it better but have drawn a blank from TfL who, for some reason, are based in Coventry!
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Can you please clarify, Tim, are you saying that the extended_CC-zone.ov2 referred to above is incomplete or are you referring to the Teleatlas map? _________________ David
TTG 700, Firmware ver 6.520 (7690/061002),GPS v1.21, Boot 4.86, OS:1387,Map: Western Europe v660 , Tripmaster 1.6d, Offroad Navigator v1.5a, External antenna, External microphone, Motorola V3, Orange PAYG |
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Tim Buxton Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 14/09/2002 20:56:18 Posts: 5231 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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It is not guaranteed as accurate, since I haven't ridden the perimeter of the extension (yet), which is something I did two or three times in the making of the original. My file has been made using the TfL map, Google Earth, a bit of local knowledge and a bit of guesswork.
The file will hopefully be available from this site and all feedback is welcome to increase its accuracy. _________________ Tim |
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davideo0 Lifetime Member

Joined: Oct 17, 2005 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Thank you Tim for the obvious hard work put into this POI file.
I'm sure it is greatly appreciated by all. _________________ David
TTG 700, Firmware ver 6.520 (7690/061002),GPS v1.21, Boot 4.86, OS:1387,Map: Western Europe v660 , Tripmaster 1.6d, Offroad Navigator v1.5a, External antenna, External microphone, Motorola V3, Orange PAYG |
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londonmohawk Occasional Visitor

Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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You can cross through the congestion charge zone for free from the North using
Edgware Rd
Park Lane
Grosvenor Place
Vauxhall Bridge Road
& across Vauxhall bridge
TFL Didn't make this very clear |
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Mikeact Frequent Visitor
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Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 303 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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And you can cross West to East..or vice versa if you like. (A40..Marylebone Road etc etc.)I fail to see how you can deviate from these clearly marked routes into the CC roads. If you decide to have a 'warning tone' with your CC poi, be warned that it will ding or dong very, very frequently...no excuse whatsoever to wander in the Zone. |
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