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keenster
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: No Route Found??? Reply with quote

im trying to plan a route from wiltshire to Kinloss in scotland and it says NO ROUTE FOUND
however if i select it on the map and select "navigate there" it works??
and if i plan a journey to Elgin nearby it works fine
anyone please shed any light on the matter?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: No Route Found??? Reply with quote

keenster wrote:
im trying to plan a route from wiltshire to Kinloss in scotland and it says NO ROUTE FOUND
however if i select it on the map and select "navigate there" it works??
and if i plan a journey to Elgin nearby it works fine
anyone please shed any light on the matter?

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Have just planned a route from Cheshire to Kinloss without a problem on a TT1 old version. v.6.520 Map v605.0
Have you tried Forres or Nairn, which are closer to Kinloss than Elgin?
I say this because I was at the airbase there for a couple of years.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keenster you are not alone.
It is very strange.

Confused

If I select Kinloss as a city centre I also get no route found.
If I browse the map and find Kinloss city centre then navigate to I get no route found.
If I browse the map and select the B9011 at the end of Glebe road a route is planned.
If I select anywhere on Glebe road I get no route found.
If I use advance planning to select a start point on the B9011 and a desitination on Glebe road I get no route found.
If I select two points on Glebe road a route is found.

My conclusion is that there is a disconnect at the junction the B9011 and Glebe Road.

I'm using 910 V6.520 and the map is Western and Central Europe V650.1052

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummmmmmmmmm does seem pretty weird
i might do one to Forres and report back
maybe we should ask tomtom why it happens
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a strange one, if you select bowse Map/ Find/ Address/ City Center, enter Kinloss and it finds it, but fails to route to it. Tap the grey/ Blue cursor icon and select Navigate there - it works out the route to the same place.
Lovely part of the country, just a shame its so far North - many a happy month spent there - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes totally true it finds a city centre there but wont navigate there unless using browse map function!
i was actually trying to show my work friend how good the tomtom was but when i asked him to give me a place to navigate to it said no!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keenster wrote:
yes totally true it finds a city centre there but wont navigate there unless using browse map function!
i was actually trying to show my work friend how good the tomtom was but when i asked him to give me a place to navigate to it said no!!
Sad

Yes it’s certainly weird. I was using the ‘Navigate to… address, street and house function, which still allows you to put the ‘City’ in the address line. Using this method always routes me to Kinloss.
However, using the ‘City Centre’ function tells me ‘No route found’
Perhaps Kinloss is just too small to be recognised as a ‘City’ by Tom Tom Tele Atlas Maps, which is the only plausible explanation I can think of at the moment. Unless someone out there knows more about Tele Atlas Mapping protocols.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulBt wrote:
Keenster you are not alone.
If I use advance planning to select a start point on the B9011 and a desitination on Glebe road I get no route found.
If I select two points on Glebe road a route is found.

My conclusion is that there is a disconnect at the junction the B9011 and Glebe Road.


Has anyone else tried this?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an addition to the above.
If you try ‘Navigate to…’ Address, street and house number, then put in the following:
Kinloss, Central Ave, 1, and choose fastest route, do you find this works for you.
This is the way I choose to use navigation rather than the ‘City Centre’ method. This is on the TT1 original b the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have found it :D


If you :
navigate to,
Street and house number,
City - Kinloss
Street - G

Then you will (I) see a car symbol with a cross through it, which I take to mean that cars are not allowed along that street for some reason.

It just so happens that when the centre of Kinloss was selected they picked a road that cars are not allowed along.

The lesson is when doing a demo do not pick kinloss. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you select what type of route you want (quickest, shortest, non-motorway etc) and choose bicycle a route is planned !!!!

So you can navigate there you just have to cycle Laughing

It would take me 41:41 hrs.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulBt wrote:
I think I have found it :D


If you :
navigate to,
Street and house number,
City - Kinloss
Street - G

Then you will (I) see a car symbol with a cross through it, which I take to mean that cars are not allowed along that street for some reason.

It just so happens that when the centre of Kinloss was selected they picked a road that cars are not allowed along.

The lesson is when doing a demo do not pick kinloss. Wink

Cheers
Paul

Mmmm, I'm not so sure about that. For instance, if you choose Weston (Nr Crewe, Cheshire) which is even smaller than Kinloss, then choose Jack Lane, (No Cars), then it will still route you there.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i see when you type G alot of the roads have a cross through the car sign
next time ill show a better demo but when he asked me to show him kinloss i couldnt exactly say "Nah mate tomtom cant go kinloss!"
not a great advert for them is it!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yes the jack lane in weston route works fine
at least im not alobe with the Kinloss scenario!
i thought it was broken!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Route Reply with quote

Tried this with 2 units.

TT1 V2 regional gets the no route found, but does show the location as pedestrian roads.

TT Rider using Navtec, finds the route, but does not show the roads as pedestrian.
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