TTN5 Advanced Planning

linknet · Frequent Visitor Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872

TTN5 Advanced Planning

Firstly, I think that this item has been wrongly translated from the original language. Rather than "Advanced Planning" implying a more advanced form of planning it should have been translated as "Advance Planning" meaning to plan in advance.

This would make more sense since there is nothing advanced about it, it merely allows you to plan a route in advance without a GPS fix.

Without a GPS fix this allows you to set a departure and destination and it then calculates the route, when you tap on the Done button it returns you to the 3D screen where you can enter the menus once again and select Find Alternatives to modify the route. However, having done all of this, you are then given no opportunity to save all of your hard work.

With a GPS fix the Advanced Planning (Advance Planning) functions quite differently. You set a departure and destination and it then calculates the route. However, when you tap on the Done button it returns you to the 3D screen and promptly starts to recalculate the route from your current position to the destination completely ignoring the departure point you had set. It doesn't even use the original departure point as an intermediate waypoint, it just ignores it.

This is certainly not advanced planning, and only a poor excuse for planning in advance.

This means that if I have a GPS fix and use Advanced Planning (Advance Planning) to plan a route for an overseas trip, say from Nice to Marseille, it calculates the route but as soon as I tap Done it then starts calculating the 1500 mile route from my location in the UK to Marseille, completely ignoring the fact that the journey should have included Nice. Then of course you can't save the route, but what would be the point anyway?

The more I use this application the more it seems to be poorly thought out and even more poorly implemented.

Roger

peat · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 18

I was just going to post about exactly the same thing.
Is there no way of saving a route before travelling on it
without a gps fix?

I was planning on sorting out all my routes for my holiday and saving them so they were ready for when I was there.
But at the moment I havent figured out how to do that, Ive even looked at a friends Navigon Navigator to see if thats any better but that program went mental when I tried to drive a pre planned route.
It ignored where I was even though my gps fix was at waypoint one and when I drove off it would keep telling me to turn back to waypoint one!!

I cant believe people designing these programs can be this stupid.
(Unless it's me being thick of course, then I take it all back Smile

linknet · Frequent Visitor Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872

Not wanting to divert too far from the topic but I found Navigon a lot better in this respect. The trick is to make sure the first waypoint is a little way ahead of your current position. If it coincides or is slightly behind then it tries to route you back towards it. At least you can save the itinerary.

Roger

peat · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 18

ahh
nice plan. I will have to nick it back off him for another go Smile

peat · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 01, 2004 Posts: 18

Tried that idea this morning, but again it kept pointing me back to the 1st waypoint.

Back on topic I managed to get tt5 to save my itinery plans today
only problem was I couldnt see the calculated route first as you need a gps signal for that.
At least you can save the plans though which is a start.

Rogerland · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 21

I have managed to run an itinerary without having a current GPS signal.

When you turn on TT5 and go to the satelite status your Longitude and Latitude will be all zero's. If you go outside and obtain a valid GPS signal it will then display your current position.

If you then disconnect your gps reciever and go back inside, as long as you do not turn off TTN5 your last position will be displayed. If you try and run an itinerary it will work from your last known position, and keep on working without a valid signal.

I know that this is not as good as TTN3 but it is a possible work around until they resolve the issue, if they ever do. Rolling Eyes

Robin2 · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:

My problem is that I'm trying to plan some routes in France, so a GPS position obtained while I'm still in UK is no use.
I have given up and planned my routes using TT3. A thought occurred to me as I was typing this.....I know that you can't run TT3 maps on TT5, but is it possible to use routes planned on TT3 on TT5???
I will have to use Explore on Active Sync, to see if I can copy the TT3 routes I have stored and drop them into TT5
Robin
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linknet · Frequent Visitor Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872

linknet · Frequent Visitor Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872

Hoppy · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject:

Robin2 · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject:

There are 2 problems using Advanced Planning in TT5

1. You can only have one waypoint. If you try to insert another waypoint it will overwrite the first. Most of the itineraries I use require several waypoints.

2. Having determined a route, you can't save it for future use.

Neither of these problems occurs with Itinerary planning in TT3

Robin
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TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used

Robin2 · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:

linknet · Frequent Visitor Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872

Robin2 · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

Well, I looked for where the routes I had planned in TT5 were located, and I found them in a folder called TomTom Navigator.
Robin
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TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used

Robin2 · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject:

Bingo-thanks Linknet!
I copied the TT3 itineraries into the itn folder, and TT5 was able to read them!
So I can test them out at home and make sure that they do what I want, using TT3, and then use them in France with TT5 - brilliant! That will do very nicely until TomTom fix the Itinerary function in TT5 (if ever!)
Robin
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TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used

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