SHARING BLUTOOTH GPS BETWEEN TOMTOM 5 OTHER APPLICATIIONS

PONDEROUS

When TomTom 3 was newly released, I returned my copy for a refund because it would not release the GPS receiver for use with other applications. I need my voice-guided navigation system to continue running in the background while I temporarily use the GPS with another application. Copilot 5 was the only one I could find that would do this at the time.

Does anyone know TomTom 5 for Pocket PC will allow this, please?

Also, I would like to know, please, if TomTom 5 will take a download of postcodes from a spreadsheet and display them as custom POIs with labels.

Rabdo · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:

There is a piece of software which enables you to share gps connections (it does work with TomTom3)
GPSGate

rabdo

Darren

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject:

Thanks to both Rabdo and Darren for such prompt replies. Darren wrote:

Dave · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject:

Ok, I think you're a little confused here. As Darren says, the GPS port is only accessible via ONE application at anyone time.

The reason WHY you couldn't use another application alongside TTN3 was because of the GPS FUDGE driver that TomTom implemented. You could EASILY get around this by uninstalling TomTom ~ GPS driver.

By unchecking RECEIVING it doesn't mean that two applications can still use the GPS data, it's just stopping receiving in one application and allowing you to use another application.

Darren · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject:

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject:

Sorry, Darren and Dave, but it appears that you are getting confused as to who it is that is getting confused!

I was well aware that only one application uses the receiver at a time, and I have never suggested otherwise. The fact that they are using the very same receiver means that they are sharing it: check any respectable dictionary and see.

Are YOU sure that unchecking this alleged applet in TomTom 3 has the desired effect? When I had TomTom 3, nothing else could use the GPS receiver unless TomTom 3 was completely uinstalled. In fact, your team agreed, and said that a "tweak" was available on the forum somewhere. I did not take them up on it as I had by then let my TomTom 3 go back for a refund.

Has TomTom 3 been altered since I had it?

I am afraid that I could not commit myself to a further purchase on the strength of you gentlemen's present advice despite the thunder with which you seek to dismiss what I say. Dave wrote of "tweaks" or "tweaking" in my thread on Copilot 5's UK routing, and it turned out that these tweaks did not exist. Furthermore, it now turns out that the PocketGPS team were making assumptions when they said that TomTom 5 is to have 7-digit postcodes, so it may be that these too will not materialise.

Apart from a contest in semantics, is there anything else that the team has to offer?

If someone can in fact answer the question that I originally raised, then I shall still be grateful.

Darren · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject:

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject:

Darren

Then it is time you did look in a dictionary. Try the latest edition of any of the Oxford range. I could hardly have imagined that both applications were using the GPS receiver at once, as they both have a connect/disconnect facility - and it goes pear shaped if you don't use it!!

A member of your team who wrote a review on TomTom 5 SAYS that he made the assumption that it would be having 7-digit supoort for postcodes. He said it when another person pointed out that he/she could not see where TomTom themselves claimed it. I could give you the reference, but I think you do need to look for it.

Thank you for now acknowledging that I was not dreaming about TomTom 3 blocking up the GPS port. That certainly is not the stance you were taking - despite your claim to the contrary.

You need not worry on my account. I feel in no way defensive. I think that you, as a member of a forum team that seeks credibility, need to do the soul searching. You could start by refraining from trying to pick pointless arguments about the use of English - particularly if you are wrong!

You will gain respect if you do not feel pressure to be the one who knows. Your knowledge is valuable even if it is not complete, and if you pretend that it is complete when it is not, there will always be those who will highlight the fact.

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:

By the way, is the third-party "fix" previously mentioned necessary to exit from TomTom 5 temporarily so that another application can share the GPS receiver, please?

Thank you.,

lbendlin · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:

Dave · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject:

PONDEROUS · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:54 am Post subject:

I will follow the same order as Dave Burrows’s latest contribution.

I will look for Copilot routing “tweaks” where you suggest. They did not exist, or at least not where you mentioned, when you referred to them before. If such tweaks exist, and work, after all, then I will write and thank you for the information.

As I am afraid you must already well know, your references to the use of 7-digit postcodes in earlier versions of TomTom have been in the context of third-party add-ons. Of course, the present matter is rather different; and why, one wonders, do you not acknowledge it? It concerns your colleague’s declaration that TomTom 5 will come with 7-digit postcodes and search facilities already built in. As I have already mentioned, he has subsequently admitted that he was assuming this. Let us hope that his assumption proves correct!

Dave and colleagues have assumed that there is some rule that means “sharing” is exclusive to situations where the thing that is shared is used by one or more persons, or things, at the same time. The fact is, however, that if my brother and I use one squash racket, then we share it. Having said all of this, the use of the wored is beside the point. Dave knew the context, and what I was asking, when he intervened. Therefore, what he said would have served no purpose, save presumably to boost his ego, even if his knowledge of the word in question had been better.

Furthermore, as can be seen, in this thread and in the one on Copilot 5 UK Routing, Dave’s contributions, are too often misleading. It would be helpful if he were to concentrate on the questions being asked and to say what he does know while making clear what he does not know. He also needs to make clear distictions between fact and opinion (whether well-founded or otherwise). In this thread, and in the he appears to have difficulty distinguishing between the two. His apparent attempts to appear clever and authoritative do him no credit.

Lutz, was there some point to your use of the word “fancy”? You can invent whatever term you like for what I call temporarily exiting. However, temporarily exiting from an application, which, as I have made perfectly clear, involves leaving the application running rather than having to start it from scratch, is simply something that I need to be able to do. Unlike you, it seems, I do not profess to be able to know or produce “fancy” things about or for computers. I just want to use them, and your forum is supposed to a source of advice on the subject.

At the beginning of the present thread I asked two straightforward questions about TomTom 5. A dozen or so posts on, neither has been addressed. Has anyone got the answers, please?

PONDEROUS · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject:

Dave

I couldn't help noticing that the TomTom 5 screen shot of a postcode search in your own review appears to show five digits in the postcode, while in the narrative you state that there it will be a 7-digit search facility. Perhaps the search was not complete when the screenshot was saved? Time will tell, no doubt.

Dave · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject:

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