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I’m using the 10 day evaluation copy of Sprite Backup Premium Edition, version 3.01 (Build 1676). I haven’t got enough space on the SD card to back up the iPAQ so I backed it up to the PC instead.
The 31,277 KB took 42:08 minutes to back up via active sync and a USB cable onto a PC running Windows 2000. My questions are:
1) Is the above time a reasonable one to back up that amount of memory to a PC?
2) Is it definitely a complete backup? I.e. if I left the iPAQ for a month and it lost its battery power and thus was in a state similar to just after a hard reset, would the restore bring it back to the state it was in when the backup was taken?
3) Is a backup to the SD/CF card any faster or better?
4) As well as the iPAQ 3970, I’ve just bought an iPAQ 2210. Can Sprite Backup work OK on both PPC2003 and WM2003. Can the Sprite Backup PC Agent handle two or more PDAs using the same PC as a backup storage? Although obviously not at the same time.
5) Anybody else have any comments (good or bad) about Sprite Backup?
Thanks, _________________ Robert.
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject:
Hi Robert,
I've been using Sprite Premium for a year or more now, and it's invaluable. I have set mine to do a backup every midnight to the SD card. I have turned on compression and it backs up to about 8Mb on my iPAQ 5555 (which answers your question about running on WM2003).
I don't back up to the PC so can't comment on the time taken.
I did a restore from a backup stored on the SD card after my iPAQ did its own hard reset and everything was back in place, including the partnership with Activesync (I connected as a guest to reload Sprite backup and then did the restore).
Personally, I wouldn't leave home without it. _________________ Tim
Joined: 26/03/2003 20:15:33 Posts: 502 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:
1) That time sounds far too long. I use Sprite to backup to my PC fairly regularily. It takes about 4 minutes to back up all the volatile memory plus selected items from my SD card, totalling about 50MB.
2) Yes. It is a complete backup. In fact I am so confident in it that I did a hard reset and restore yesterday just to test something.
3) Takes about the same time to an SD card or to a PC although when I backup to an SD card I backup a bit less data.
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject:
4)Privateer wrote : As well as the iPAQ 3970, I’ve just bought an iPAQ 2210. Can Sprite Backup work OK on both PPC2003 and WM2003. Can the Sprite Backup PC Agent handle two or more PDAs using the same PC as a backup storage? Although obviously not at the same time. Always supposing sprite lets you install onto 2 PPC's I don't see any reason why you can't! I have created a folder called "Pocket PC backups" in "My documents "on my PC.( just so I know where they are)..I have different folders within this folder for each type of backup I do .. so you should be able to name one of then 2210 and the other 3970,then backup each machine to it's folder name sake.. then if you need to restore Point Sprite to the required folder! Hope this makes sense I think this is the best prog since sliced bread :D dave
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:
I have just run a sprite pe backup to PC on my 2210 and the ave transfer speed was 221KB's per second so a file of your size should have taken roughly 2 1/2 mins
dave
If you do "options" then choose "switch to advanced mode" then select "options" again you can then select "backup options" from the menu. Select that and you get the option to tick a box detailed "Create self restoring backup files". In short the backup software creates an "exe" file for you which means you do not have to reinstall sprite to restore your data - just do a hard reset and run the exe file :D _________________ Rgds,
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: Re: Sprite Backup Premium Edition
Privateer wrote:
The 31,277 KB took 42:08 minutes to back up via active sync and a USB cable onto a PC running Windows 2000. My questions are:
Ouch!
Privateer wrote:
1) Is the above time a reasonable one to back up that amount of memory to a PC?
I haven't used the new version but the reason it is slow is because it's having to backup through ActiveSync to the PC which is notoriously slow, that's why you usually find installing GPS maps to a storage card is quicker through a reader/writer than through ActiveSync. Typically I'll find that backing up to storage card takes no longer than 10 mins, in the average setup I'd say maximum of 5 mins with all the junk (Whoops, I mean apps) I have installed.
Privateer wrote:
2) Is it definitely a complete backup? I.e. if I left the iPAQ for a month and it lost its battery power and thus was in a state similar to just after a hard reset, would the restore bring it back to the state it was in when the backup was taken?
Definately a complete backup. If you have selected the option to write to an EXE file, then if your iPAQ hard resets, you just go into File Explorer, tap the EXE file (the backup) and it will start restoring using a built-in-to-EXE-file mini Restore program.
Privateer wrote:
3) Is a backup to the SD/CF card any faster or better?
Much faster, around 5 mins on average for me and that's writing to a MicroDrive.
Privateer wrote:
4) As well as the iPAQ 3970, I?ve just bought an iPAQ 2210. Can Sprite Backup work OK on both PPC2003 and WM2003. Can the Sprite Backup PC Agent handle two or more PDAs using the same PC as a backup storage? Although obviously not at the same time.
I haven't tried it on the PC but I don't see why not. When I started out using two or more PPC's I named them differently. If you name them the same this means that if software requires the correct PPC Name for licensing then technically you can use it on multiple Pocket PC's, legally you need to check the license as morally it may be wrong to do so.
Privateer wrote:
5) Anybody else have any comments (good or bad) about Sprite Backup?
I have only had one issue and that was with my old 3850 and the EXE backup didn't restore. It appeared that although I didn't know it at the time, I had a corrupted registry and this is what SpriteSoft said was failing a restore. Whenever I have had to do a full restore since, it's worked very nicely. I always backup my PPC to MicroDrive BEFORE doing any updates as I know that I can always restore immediately to backup. Obviously any changes you make from since the backup will be lost as it will delete and restore everything in ROM.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject:
Tim, kartracer, oddsock, sland, and Dave,
Many thanks for all of your replies, comments and advice. They’re enough to convince me that Sprite Backup Premium Edition, is a useful product and definitely worth buying.
I’ve just ordered a Kingston 512MB SD card from Global Positioning Systems for the iPAQ 3970 to allow me to back up the PDA to the SD card. BTW, the card was £46.95 including VAT, which didn’t seem too bad. I hope that the new SD card works as well if not better than the Lexar that it will replace.
Regards, _________________ Robert.
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:01 am Post subject:
Update.
Dear All,
Many, many, many thanks for your input and advice. I bought the upgrade licence for US$11.75 (£6.72 including UK VAT and Credit Card currency charges) on 28th September 2004 and I had to use the software to restore my iPAQ 2210 for the first time, last night, 14th October 2004.
I tried the 2210 and CF card on a magnetic mount, which didn’t cause a problem apart from the force that the two joined, which jarred the iPAQ into a dead state. I removed and replaced the battery with no joy. I tried again, also with no joy.
I then performed a hard reset. After which, CoPilot reinstalled itself for some strange reason, but not as a licensed product. I opened up file explorer, went to the storage card and ran Sprite backup. That became a 10 trial unlicensed product as well but it allowed me to run the restore, which took an amazingly short period of time (less than a minute after it had shutdown all processes).
After the required software reset, the iPAQ 2210 was just as before. CoPilot was the full licensed product, as was Sprite Backup. Memory-Map also made a welcome return. Everything worked!
If anybody reads this and hasn’t yet got Sprite Backup then get it now! It saved me a lot of hassle and time, without even having to go near a PC!
Regards, _________________ Robert.
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:15 am Post subject:
Robert,
Glad to hear that your restore went well.
The reason for CoPilot restoring itself is that you have the Quickstart option on your SD card. As you have Sprite Backup you can save a bit of space on the card by deleteing the CoPilot Quickstart files. Quoting the ALK support site: "If the QuickStart is copied onto your Storage Card and you need to remove it, simply delete the folder that contains it. The folder will be named either "2577", "4000", or "10003" depending on which type of Pocket PC you are using." _________________ Kam
the quickstart is a nightmare really as you still have to activate it pretty soon to continue using it...so sprite wins hands down to me when you are away from a computer for a few days. _________________ Ipaq 3970, Ipaq 2210 X2, Smart ST V1, Tomtom V3+V5, CoPilot V5, AA Navigator, Tomtom Bluetooth GPS, Navman 3450i Jacket, Navman Bluetooth GPS, Holux GM270, Fortuna GPS-PocketXtrack
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I then performed a hard reset. After which, CoPilot reinstalled itself for some strange reason, but not as a licensed product. I opened up file explorer, went to the storage card and ran Sprite backup. That became a 10 trial unlicensed product as well but it allowed me to run the restore, which took an amazingly short period of time (less than a minute after it had shutdown all processes).
After the required software reset, the iPAQ 2210 was just as before. CoPilot was the full licensed product, as was Sprite Backup. Memory-Map also made a welcome return. Everything worked!
If anybody reads this and hasn’t yet got Sprite Backup then get it now! It saved me a lot of hassle and time, without even having to go near a PC!
Regards,
That's great news Robert (about the restore), I still stick by my guns with Sprite Backup, it's a superb app and has saved my bacon gawd knows how many times! Pity about the magmount though, they do snap together at quite a force but I haven't had the 2210 hard reset like that before.
I then performed a hard reset. After which, CoPilot reinstalled itself for some strange reason, but not as a licensed product. I opened up file explorer, went to the storage card and ran Sprite backup. That became a 10 trial unlicensed product as well but it allowed me to run the restore, which took an amazingly short period of time (less than a minute after it had shutdown all processes).
After the required software reset, the iPAQ 2210 was just as before. CoPilot was the full licensed product, as was Sprite Backup. Memory-Map also made a welcome return. Everything worked!
If anybody reads this and hasn’t yet got Sprite Backup then get it now! It saved me a lot of hassle and time, without even having to go near a PC!
Regards,
That's great news Robert (about the restore), I still stick by my guns with Sprite Backup, it's a superb app and has saved my bacon gawd knows how many times! Pity about the magmount though, they do snap together at quite a force but I haven't had the 2210 hard reset like that before.
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