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phillevy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
I appreciate the argument but what I don't understand is why you feel aggrieved?

The service you get via LIVE on the PND is exactly what was advertised and has not changed. The cost disparity between iPhone and PND has been explained.

There is a huge difference between offering access to iPhone users and offering it to anyone with a connected BT phone with data and a TT PND. Support etc would be a nightmare as it was with PLUS.

Perhaps TT are testing the water but who knows. Either way, personally I've never considered PLUS or LIVE worth the subscription costs and I certainly won't be subscribing on my iPhone as IME, HD Traffic is rubbish more often than not and can't be trusted.

I agree with some of your reasoning, but whatever I was happy to pay or put up with in terms of poor service in the past has to be looked at differently now. I'll just have to hope an Android version is on the horizon so I will be able to get some of this (IMO) preferential treatment! Just don't dare offer those same iPhone users a cheaper verion of the PGPSWorld speed cameras!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phillevy wrote:
Precisely right - as i said earlier, PND users are now being forced to pay an extra (often unrequired) network subscription to Vodafone which is now going to provide all the iPhone users (most not on Vodafone) with the data they need for HD traffic to work Evil or Very Mad


so what? do you hear my 2 oldest brothers moaning about it? they're both on vodafone so are providing the information to vodafone and thus to the hd traffic data. one has an old tomtom one, the other uses copilot on his android - neither of them benefit but yet YOU are milking THEIR data without even saying thanks to them! how inconsiderate is that?!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, remember, its not JUST the Vodafone sim card data that provides HD traffic. It (Vodafone sim card movements) is just a small cog in a large wheel.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what on earth is your issue with iphone users?! you clearly have a grudge against something...

phillevy wrote:
Just don't dare offer those same iPhone users a cheaper verion of the PGPSWorld speed cameras!


1) they actually pay more as they have to buy the app in the first place
2) if pocketgpsworld.com decide to do an offer on their own data then why is that a problem? do you complain that tomtom offer free live services for a year when you buy a new live device? if not then why not? "how DARE they give a group of people a special offer"

rant over

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
what on earth is your issue with iphone users?! you clearly have a grudge against something...

phillevy wrote:
Just don't dare offer those same iPhone users a cheaper verion of the PGPSWorld speed cameras!


1) they actually pay more as they have to buy the app in the first place
2) if pocketgpsworld.com decide to do an offer on their own data then why is that a problem? do you complain that tomtom offer free live services for a year when you buy a new live device? if not then why not? "how DARE they give a group of people a special offer"

rant over


MaFt


It was actually supposed to be a tongue in cheek remark - my wife has an iPhone and I wouldn't begrudge her anything (within reason)!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
phillevy wrote:
Precisely right - as i said earlier, PND users are now being forced to pay an extra (often unrequired) network subscription to Vodafone which is now going to provide all the iPhone users (most not on Vodafone) with the data they need for HD traffic to work Evil or Very Mad


so what? do you hear my 2 oldest brothers moaning about it? they're both on vodafone so are providing the information to vodafone and thus to the hd traffic data. one has an old tomtom one, the other uses copilot on his android - neither of them benefit but yet YOU are milking THEIR data without even saying thanks to them! how inconsiderate is that?!

MaFt


Good try but not the same at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phillevy wrote:
It was actually supposed to be a tongue in cheek remark - my wife has an iPhone and I wouldn't begrudge her anything (within reason)!


considering the ranting nature of the rest of your posts it wasn't entirely clear that it was 'tongue in cheek'...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
phillevy wrote:
It was actually supposed to be a tongue in cheek remark - my wife has an iPhone and I wouldn't begrudge her anything (within reason)!


considering the ranting nature of the rest of your posts it wasn't entirely clear that it was 'tongue in cheek'...

Sorry for the misunderstanding - ranting they may appear, but I have been loyal to TT for many years and think my points raised are not that unreasonable - I have only ever posted here before if the service was down - I don't rant very often!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phillevy - i was getting wound up by some of the comments - for the record i wasn't specifically picking on your post!

i'm backing off now anyway - leave you all to it :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
phillevy - i was getting wound up by some of the comments - for the record i wasn't specifically picking on your post!

i'm backing off now anyway - leave you all to it :D

MaFt

Same here - rant over Smile
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