Static Cameras

tonik · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:54 am Post subject: Static Cameras

I was recently 'caught' speeding by a 'manned' speed camera on Wetherby Road, Boroughbridge. I cannot specifically say that I was travelling within the speed limit but I have a couple of question that maybe someone can help with: (1) North Yorksire Police refuse to send me photographic evidence (2) the alleged speed is far greater than I would normally expect.
Ok a couple of m.p.h. over I accept but they are stating 19m.p.h. over the limit. I subscribe to the database but never saw this camera.
Does 'manned' mean Gatso or Mobile ?
Do North Yorkshire Police have to provide photographic evidence ?
Can I ask for proof of calibration of the device ?

Thanks

M8TJT · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Static Cameras

sussamb · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:20 am Post subject:

Out of interest what is the speed limit on that road? If you're confident that you weren't going 19mph over, which would probably be about 25 on your speedo, select the option to go to court when they will have to provide the evidence.
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M8TJT · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:58 am Post subject:

And loose and pay a much bigger fine? They have you by the

my friend.
How do you prove you were not speeding?
The 'amount over' does not affect the fact that you were (probably) over, but might affect the fine if you go to court.
Remember that 19MPH over a 30, is pretty much 50 with a speedo reading of probably about 55 so if you were doing that, you would deffo know it.

marksfish · Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:58 am Post subject:

When I received my NIP from Cambs & Suffolk constabulary 5 years ago, it stated photographic evidence would only be provided in the event of a court appearance Sad

When I got my NIP from the Hadecs3 cameras from Essex constabulary, there was a link to the 5 images, plus the calibration certificate. This NIP (luckily) was cancelled due to a technical error!

Would be so much easier if everyone played by the same rules Rolling Eyes

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b33jay · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 05, 2012 Posts: 255

Most forces will supply, if requested, a photograph "to assist in identifying the driver" - don't mention evidence or such. Of course, a rearview shot wouldn't help in this respect!

Querying the calibration or technical information about the camera will achieve nothing other than a large additional cost for the qualified expert who will prove it was working correctly.

tonik · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:22 am Post subject:

Thanks for all your help guys. It definitely wasn't a mobile or Safety Partnership van. I didn't even see it hence the fact that I didn't add it to the PGPSW site and I always keep an eye out for them. Sent them a letter asking for a photo again and queried the speed but not going to risk taking it to Court

M8TJT · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:02 am Post subject:

A 'mobile' is not limited to 'SP' vans, but includes sites where plods with handheld cams operate which it sounds like how you were caught.
Having said that, I think that Kojak with a Kodak usually stops you there and then. He did when I got caught anyway.

dales · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:37 am Post subject:

If you were driving on the A1M there, they use a camera van high up on the bridge across the road, where it is not easy to spot.
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tonik · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:55 am Post subject:

The NIP says Wetherby Road (South), Boroughbridge in a 30mph area for the record. Next time I'm in the area I'll find the bl..dy thing and add it to the Cameras. It must have been a hidden Gatso I think but I'm pretty certain that I wouldn't be doing 49mph even in a 40 limit. Looks like penalty points for me

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sussamb · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:22 pm Post subject:

If you're serious about your driving style then you'd certainly know about 49 in a 30. Don't suppose you have any dashcam footage to help with an appeal?
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Kremmen · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:11 pm Post subject:

Agree.

I may drift over the limit from time to time but never anywhere near 49 in a 30.

Is there a 50 to 30 speed change where a camera may have trapped you as you were just throttling back.

If it was a hand held mobile then I think they stop you on the spot, not just send a NIP ?
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MaFt · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:59 pm Post subject:

I would highly recommend signing up to the forums at Pepipoo - loads of legal people there who can advise.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/

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