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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Berisford wrote: | I'm pinning my hopes on a bloody expensive bit of 3M anti-glare film currently winging its way to me.
There was a number of cheaper (German origin) stick on film protectors on e-bay but the high number of negative reviews put me off. | 99p post free (how do they do that?) from ebay. Now that MUST be worth a punt. I'll report back. |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:51 am Post subject: |
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And you've got almost a full calendar month before you show me the result  _________________ DashCam:
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cottonsocks Regular Visitor

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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't sat nav manufacturers use matt/antiglare screens by default to save customers having to faff around looking for other solutions? Perhaps it's the same reason they keep sending us down narrow country lanes or often don't specify road numbers for major roundabout junctions, i.e., they don't actually use the products themselves. Perhaps we should suggest that some of them go out on a trip, fill the car with passengers wearing white clothes on a bright sunny day, plan a route to take in Swindon's magic roundabout and a few other complex major junctions, stay out until its dark and then see what happens when they get directed down some really narrow, country lanes with lots of sharp bends and steep hills on the return trip? Of course, an in-car camera would be mandatory to record the fun, as would posting the video on their web sites.  |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:20 am Post subject: |
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My 2597 is anti glare. They changed them to full glass for my 2599 though.
Why !!! _________________ DashCam:
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cottonsocks Regular Visitor

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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | My 2597 is anti glare. They changed them to full glass for my 2599 though.
Why !!! | Probably for the same reason that the anti-theft code on some older sat navs was removed or that TomTom has removed much of the functionality that users used to enjoy - they just want to wind us up (or else, they are somewhat incompetent). |
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cottonsocks Regular Visitor

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | Berisford wrote: | I'm pinning my hopes on a bloody expensive bit of 3M anti-glare film currently winging its way to me.
There was a number of cheaper (German origin) stick on film protectors on e-bay but the high number of negative reviews put me off. | 99p post free (how do they do that?) from ebay. Now that MUST be worth a punt. I'll report back. |
Does it come with free air bubbles? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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The Fairy liquid trick sorts those, if prepared properly. _________________ DashCam:
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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cottonsocks wrote: | Does it come with free air bubbles? | You get free air bubble with all of them unless you fit them in a truly dust free environment. Modern ones will not have air bubbles that you can't squeegee out with a credit card (or similar) unless you get dust under it.
I'm going to try the Fairy liquid application to see if that will eliminate static and its associated dust attraction. |
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Allan_whoops Frequent Visitor

Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 369
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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That's novel!
Hands that do sat navs
Mild green Fairy Liquid |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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You spray the glass and the sticky side of the film with a weakish solution of water and FL. The film then can slide about on the glass until it's in the right position. You then squeegee out the surplus water.
I'll report back on whether it worked for me or not in a bit when I have tried it. |
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Berisford Regular Visitor

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with that plan....my piece of 3M film has arrived and it looks grim on the 50. That sexy quality look has gone.
As mentioned above, static attracts dust and whilst I've only got 2 minute specs, they are visible.....along with a good few other small air bubbles. Info claims they'll shrink and disappear overnight......hmmm, we'll see.
The touch screen sensitivity down the left hand side has also suffered.
Looking like £8 down the drain.
On the up-side, the reflections are much reduced, i'll give it a proper test at the weekend but it's not looking good. |
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cottonsocks Regular Visitor

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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Berisford wrote: | Good luck with that plan....my piece of 3M film has arrived and it looks grim on the 50. That sexy quality look has gone.
As mentioned above, static attracts dust and whilst I've only got 2 minute specs, they are visible.....along with a good few other small air bubbles. Info claims they'll shrink and disappear overnight......hmmm, we'll see.
The touch screen sensitivity down the left hand side has also suffered.
Looking like £8 down the drain.
On the up-side, the reflections are much reduced, i'll give it a proper test at the weekend but it's not looking good. | Most of the ones I have bought have ended up in the bin for similar reasons, which is why it's especially annoying the manufacturers can't supply items with screens that are ~100% fit for purpose. All the time we are being shown examples of how technology is advancing at an amazing pace, but it doesn't seem to have spread to the world of satellite navigation systems. Even though I'm not an American citizen, I feel a very strong desire to use the (still popular?) H word here and continue with ...k, I would have thought they would have even been able to read our thoughts by now! In a more British way, we might say, "One is not amused."  |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier

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Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4462 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: |
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As a member of various forums that cover Garmin products, including Garmin's own forum, there are very few complaints about screen visibility so it seems the majority of users don't have issues and as I mentioned my screen doesn't cause me any problems. I prefer it over the rather dull screens of old that are on my 1490 and 1310. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Squeezy not a good idea as I was hoping it wouldn't be. No bubbles, no dust, no reflections, no touch screen.
At present it's on the hot water pipe trying to dry out the touch screen.
Do not use the wet method of application.
I'll report back on the success, or not of the heat treatment on the screen. |
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Allan_whoops Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:20 am Post subject: |
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You can buy sun visors on Amazon which do a decent job. |
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