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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | What I intend to do is provide a new screen. This screen will have separate settings for 20 through 70mph and will allow each one to have it's own setting. | Presumably this is within CSV to GPX converter? Kremmen wrote: | but if I do the change then this speed increase can be applied to both the included and separate overspeed file(s). | Just to clarify, what is the difference and advantage/disadvantage/reason between having the overspeed included, or as a separate .GPX file K? If 'included' does the job with one .GPX why have the others? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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The current program logic allows for the @ lines to be within the main files or in a separate combined file (overspeed.gpx).
If in the main files then the overspeed warning is just the normal wav warning that was used for the approach.
The combined overspeed file allows a separate wav warning, I do provide an overspeed.wav for this.
What has been currently applied is a fix to the combined file as this is easier. If I do it within the program I can apply the higher threshold in both options, plus, I can maintain the proximity at the same place.
Well I know what I mean  _________________ DashCam:
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | Well I know what I mean  | I'm really pleased that you do K  |
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | Garmin has an annoying habit of telling you that you are speeding when you're not.
I've had instances where my speedo is showing 30, Garmin is showing 28 and yet I still get the repetition overspeed warning. |
Ah, I understand. That is annoying. I Guess that people have asked Garmin to change it and they won't?
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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They seem to have some AI that can determine that you are close to the limit so it issues warnings to stop you accelerating into trouble.
The request is understandable. Unfortunately I have a lack of time at the moment to do it as it needs a proper job doing, not something to be rushed. _________________ DashCam:
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stuartb Occasional Visitor

Joined: Oct 25, 2005 Posts: 43
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Privateer wrote: |
Personally, I want to be warned of speed traps as I approach them, regardless of whether I'm driving above or below the speed limit. If I continue to drive above the speed limit then I want additional warnings.
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The behaviour you get on a Garmin (Nuvi at least) is that the alert for a camera site is always on (i.e. if the POI is defined as an alerting type, then there is ALWAYS a warning).
What we're talking about are additional overspeed warnings. I understand that you want these as well and that's fine.
The Garmin behaviour is that it alerts even if below the speed limit (but - I think - accelerating (even slightly) and also alerts a lot. Even if warnings are set to single vs continuous (I've never tried continuous), they are not single, they keep bonging or whatever as you approach the camera site.
I fully understand that many will want to go for the safest option of getting overspeed warnings at the speed limit, but I think there are often scenarios now where these can be massively distracting, annoying and arguably counterproductive.
I like to sometimes use a much greater warning distance for mobiles for faster roads (60-90 seconds). This may vary depending on whether I'm on home turf or doing a trip somewhere else.
That means that I get more alerts from cameras which are on surrounding roads and there's also more time for overspeed warnings to go on an on even if I'm 1 mph over a limit for a road I'm not even going to be travelling on.
Better I think to not have alert overload which can lead to tuning them out.
Ultimately its about using being able to use all of the flexibility available to tune to suit.
Personal preferences and beliefs on enforcement limits etc are not compromised by implementing this.
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, as posted here quite a few times historically, you don't always get an approach warning if the Nuvi thinks you are sufficiently below the limit.
We used to get quite a few posts about missing cameras. This phenomenon only raises its head with the @ marker and why I use the # marker to force an approach warning. _________________ DashCam:
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stuartb Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for clarifying - I meant the behaviour as tested using your program.
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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porge Lifetime Member

Joined: Jan 18, 2009 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:07 pm Post subject: am i doing something wrong? |
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hi guys, not used this process for a fair while, but upon downloading the converter, i am getting this message, has something changed that im missing?
invalid file format
example "Expecting gatso_Fifty.CSV not Gatso_50.csv ? |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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You must use the converter to unzip the file after downloading. The unzipping process in the converter also changes the filenames to the accepted ones.
Oh, and by the way, it's all in the help file.
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly as per the error message.
Look it up in the help manual for the explanation.
It basically means you have unzipped the PGPSW file outside of the Converter. Use the Converters own unzip facility because it performs other necessary pre actions.
Being as you are not the first to mention this recently added warning I'm thinking that previously you may have run the Converter using the _50 instead of _fifty.
If that was the case then using the Converter is pointless because the Garmin would have overridden the proximity distances you set and used Garmins default 36 seconds. _________________ DashCam:
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Beecha K.
As it now seems to be a fairly common problem, when you have finished painting K, perhaps the error message could give a clue as to why the error is being raised?  |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Surely it does ?
It says it's found _50 but is expecting _fifty.
Looking at the csv, bmp and wav filenames in the 3 displayed panels I would hope would be enough ?
I could add a further line to the message to use the Converter to unzip the PGPSW zip file. _________________ DashCam:
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | I could add a further line to the message to use the Converter to unzip the PGPSW zip file. | That's exactly what I meant K. As it explains that not using it leads to the wrong filename.  |
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