Smart St V2 upgrade to V3

topgazza · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject: Smart St V2 upgrade to V3

On the Navman Pin is this possible......

icsys · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject:

I believe this will be possible. It is a new piece of hardware.
You will need to wait for an official annoncement from Navman on the specific upgrade routes for each device but as it stands at the moment the upgrade with UK (or single country) maps will be £79 and the upgrade with Europe maps will be £149.

Sounds steep but it is a major software upgrade. Wink

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topgazza · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject:

Thanks. Looking at the PiN but they all ship with V2 it seems. Seeing mixed reviews about V2 and dead ends etc etc . Do we know if V3 is better or is that what Dave is reviewing?

icsys · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject:

can you elaborate on the 'dead ends'?

the PiN will ship with v2 at the moment but once the new iCNs are on the market i'm sure the upgrade routes will be announced for all the other kit.

Dave is reviewing the new iCN 510 which uses the new v3 software.
I would consider v3 as a major software upgrade rather than maps but the M6 toll is in. I suspect the maps are similar to TomTom GO so perhaps map errors reported on the GO may or may not be also on STv3 maps.
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sfi1 · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:17 am Post subject:

I think the dead-ends are mainly to do with the maps (i.e being routed to a road that is no-entry, motor vehicles not permitted etc.
I do hope they sort out the routing as it always seems to be recalculating even when you follow the original planned route exactly which causes real confusion as it appears to be constantly changing it's route. Coupled with tele-atlas maps it has often been the case of having to turn it off and use a normal map (at least this stays the same).

DavidBH · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 24, 2004 Posts: 1

I just bought a new U.S. version Navman PiN 100 last month, and this is the way I look at the software upgrade:

When you buy new hardware and find out a month or two later that the software you received with the hardware is being upgraded, there is some expectation that the manufacturer will take this into consideration by offering a reasonable upgrade price for those who made recent purchases.

Any intelligent consumer will, of course, want to see what else can be purchased at the same cost as the upgrade. So if Navman's price for the upgrade is the same or higher than the cost of purchasing other competitive software, a consumer would be foolish not to look at other options.

So I will wait to see what price Navman offers to U.S. customers to upgrade what was purchased in the last month or two. If the price is high, I will consider that Navman is not serious about keeping longterm customers, and will look at all of the other available options to see if I can get similar or superior capabilities at a lower cost.

sfi1 · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:34 am Post subject:

History would indicate that Navman don't discount very much (if at all) for existng customer's. Since the original 3000 version, through V1 and V2 the upgrades have been Between £139 and £179 for the software. In the case of the upgrade form V1 to V2 it was better for me to sell the old model and purchase a completely new one. the forums have comments about the relative prices of upgrades between manufactures and it doesn't look good.

sfi1 · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

I should have mentioned that it was the pocketpc versions.
Navman have made some gestures on upgrades for ICN owners in the past, i suppose because it costs a lot more.
Don't forget that V2 came out in March or April (as i recall) this year so it's only been out a few months.
Has anyone had any anticpated release dates for V3 yet ?
I just hope it can finally give reliable routing (not yet achieved in the versions to date !)

icsys · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject:

Telboy · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject:

Hi all,

I brought my 3450 early this year and within a few weeks V2 was released. I contact Navman Customer Services who offered to send V2 to me free of charge. When V3 is released, those of you who feel you have a legitimate claim to V3 should try the same. Navman seem very reasonable in this respect.

Incidently, does anybody know if V3 will support customisable POI's or allow downloads of safety camera locations?

Tim Buxton · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:

sfi1 · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject:

ICSYS - have you seen V3 in action ?
The options that you say it has will certainly help with the routing but i'll need convincing that the TeleAtlas maps will be as accurate as you suggest. for example it has tried to direct me a number of times onto a road either below(or above) the road i'm travelling on which is clearly impossible (except for a helicopter).
I really do hope that they can finally get it right.

icsys · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject:

Dave · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:32 am Post subject:

The iCN510 Preview will be available on the site Monday (if not before). Guaranteed :D

sfi1 · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:12 am Post subject:

It happened many times abroad especially in Italy and often in Germany.
I also borrowed a TomTom setup using the GPS3000 receiver some time ago and a particular journey was from central london to Stanstead Airport using the M11. If i went past the turnoff going towards cambridge it would almost always try and make me exit when i passed under a bridge so i'm sure that it's the Teleatlas maps not the software. Does anybody know if the maps contain height information of roads and whether the navman software takes account of this as from my experience there is a problem in this respect. Obviously in more mountainous countries it would appear much worse.
There are clearly occasions when it doesn't realise that the road your on is above another and as i said, because i've had it also with TomTom the only common thing is the TeleAtlas Maps.
Hope this makes sense.

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