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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: Windows OS
In doing some research before I buy, I've noticed that it is being advised that users need a PC with Windows ME/ 2000/XP in order to load Europe Maps, etc. I'm still running 98SE. Will I be able to load maps, download and install software updates etc onto TTG with this old OS?
Joined: Jul 10, 2004 Posts: 296 Location: In the Office
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Windows OS
Simon1 wrote:
In doing some research before I buy, I've noticed that it is being advised that users need a PC with Windows ME/ 2000/XP in order to load Europe Maps, etc. I'm still running 98SE. Will I be able to load maps, download and install software updates etc onto TTG with this old OS?
As long as you have USB on you pc, then yes you can. Win 98se supports USB, so even if you haven't got USB now, you will be able to get it updated for about £10, It's easily done yourself.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Windows OS
Simon1 wrote:
In doing some research before I buy, I've noticed that it is being advised that users need a PC with Windows ME/ 2000/XP in order to load Europe Maps, etc. I'm still running 98SE. Will I be able to load maps, download and install software updates etc onto TTG with this old OS?
like stated, if you have USB, you're set. I installed the major roads under linux, without any helper program.
I did aks tomtom to make instructions and to re-engineer their packing methods of files though so that if someone can read instructions, he or she could install by hand.
Joined: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 18 Location: Essex, UK
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject:
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problem is that you cannot activate those maps.
why the cd code , but i bet someone will have a keygen soon just like the tomtom 3 keygen to activate maps , thats if they is no cd key with post , and i am told you can use the tomtom go maps with the tomtom 3 more up todate than the tomtom 3 maps
Joined: Aug 07, 2004 Posts: 388 Location: Surrey, UK
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject:
I finally got to play with a TTG today - first time I've actually been able to see what the menus are like, etc - even tho it wasn't in a car. A question though:
I tried to put in an address that I know, but the houses on that street have names and not numbers. There didn't appear to be any way of doing this.
Also, I discovered that my house (no 34) doesn't exist in TTG on my road. I am only allowed to put in numbers from 1-33, even though the numbers go up to about 40 and have done since the 1950's!
I finally got to play with a TTG today - first time I've actually been able to see what the menus are like, etc - even tho it wasn't in a car. A question though:
I tried to put in an address that I know, but the houses on that street have names and not numbers. There didn't appear to be any way of doing this.
Also, I discovered that my house (no 34) doesn't exist in TTG on my road. I am only allowed to put in numbers from 1-33, even though the numbers go up to about 40 and have done since the 1950's!
mapping errors can be sent to teleatlas. I found some streets without numbers at all. sometimes this happens. regarding the houses that have a name -- this could be an addition for TTGO. on the other hand. in teh netherlands, I never ever have seen this before. each house has a number.
Well, I've used my TTG for a while now and I have some comments...
1. The maps are OLD. Somewhere between Garmin CS4 and CS5 (2001 or so). Really tedious when most of the roads around me are wrong, or it routes you up a road that went years ago. The Garmin (CS6) maps are much much better.
2. Routing. It seems to choose odd routes. For example it had decided to send me one way, eta 1318. I turned off route, it quickly recalculated and the eta dropped to 1311. Not clever.
I agree the maps are OLD. The estate that I live on has been occupied for over two years and none of the roads appear on the map. I had to go to the Broadgate Centre near Liverpool Street Station in London the other day and the address didn't appear on the map. Where the centre is appeared as a large empty space! Admittedly the centre is fairly new (not sure how long it's been built) but it must be at least several years or more since it was in the planned stages, therefore the roads should appear, even if un-named, they are (and named) in my A-Z.
Regarding driving through London and other cities with narrow streets and high buildings I lose the signal a lot and I find myself constantly looking for and stopping in open areas for it to re-establish a signal and give directions, not easy when most of London is covered in red routes. I also find that the postcodes in the Tom Tom don't match the ones for the addresses I have to go to. Clarification of the postcode given conforms that those in Tom Tom are incorrect, a further indication of old mapping. As far as the postcode facility now in place I don't find it very helpful, seven digit postcodes would be an enormous advantage (providing they are correct)! When no house numbers are available for a street and there are no choices of crossings found available it should be easier to move on or get out of the page. When new maps are available free upgrades should be given to those of us who have purchased the early units.
Also while in congested areas it seems to get easily confused and have trouble keeping up and I find myself having to slow to a crawl to avoid missing a turning or instruction, much to the wrath of those behind me! I also find that it's routing is often nonsensical, for instance it seems to always want me to travel via the Blackwell Tunnel regardless as to which part of London I wish to travel to or from, often bringing me back to the south side of the river through the Rotherhithe Tunnel and then back over the river by one of the bridges if I'm heading for West or South West London destinations! I also found to my financial disadvantage on my first couple of trips to London that it would take me into the congestion charging zone by as little as just one street in order to take me to destinations totally outside of the congestion zone area, despite the best route being to follow the A505 ring road, thereby avoiding the charging zone! Same thing happened south of the river! When asking for alternative routes (for all parts of the country) it often chooses totally illogical routes, especially if you have rejected its first couple of choices.
It would be a better tool if you could add more than one waypoint or via address and it also often doesn't map the best or most logical route when using the via choice. Also it would be an advantage to be able to choose from fastest to slowest/most scenic/economical route etc rather than always the quickest, especially as sometimes the time difference in one route over another is only a second or two.
Having said all that, I am a new GPS user and overall I do think the TOM TOM is great piece of equipment. It is an asset in my line of work and I'm glad I delayed starting my new business venture for a week or two until after I received the unit, otherwise I think I may have had a much harder time in my initial start up weeks. A good tool to have but does need some fairly basic additional functions added to it. It would be advantageous to have speed camera locations added of course and I would certainly welcome that!
It is also often tells me to turn around or make a turn and when I do it then tells me the same thing and directs me back onto my original route, annoying when you know it's a bogus instruction and ignore it only to be proven right a few minutes later, extremely annoying when you don't know it's bogus and you are in Central London and end up going around in bloody circles or entering the congestion charge zone neeedlessly!
Additionally a better, more in depth user manual would be an advantage as I am sure many of us, especially those of us technically challenged are not using the unit to its maximum ability. I know I have learnt a lot just by encountering and getting into deep and time wasting investigation in order to solve the simplest of problems, much to my waiting customers dismay!
A qwerty keyboard would have been a better choice, it beats me why it wasn't used!
As far as the finger smudging and sunlight issues, they are minor irritations that can be fairly easily overcome by most with just a little thought put into solving the problem, really no big deal at all!
On the whole it's a great unit but can definitely be improved upon with what I believe would be easily achievable additional functions!
Joined: Aug 07, 2004 Posts: 388 Location: Surrey, UK
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Windows OS
bfreeman wrote:
delboy0754 wrote:
Simon1 wrote:
In doing some research before I buy, I've noticed that it is being advised that users need a PC with Windows ME/ 2000/XP in order to load Europe Maps, etc. I'm still running 98SE. Will I be able to load maps, download and install software updates etc onto TTG with this old OS?
As long as you have USB on you pc, then yes you can. Win 98se supports USB, so even if you haven't got USB now, you will be able to get it updated for about £10, It's easily done yourself.
I couldn't get either a Win 98 or a Win 98SE computer to work with the Go - there are no drivers for it. It worked perfectly with a Win 2000 system, just loaded itself automatically and came up with the Go as a mass-storage device.
Oh Great - now I'm more confused. Has anyone out there successfully connected their TTG to a PC with Win98SE? (Yes, I do have USB ports).
Joined: Jul 10, 2004 Posts: 296 Location: In the Office
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Windows OS
bfreeman wrote:
I couldn't get either a Win 98 or a Win 98SE computer to work with the Go - there are no drivers for it. It worked perfectly with a Win 2000 system, just loaded itself automatically and came up with the Go as a mass-storage device.
It Won't work with Win98 because win98 does NOT support USB.
With win98SE,
Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices that are plugged in to a computer running Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition may not work if the your computer uses the following hardware components:
An AMD processor (running at 350 MHz or faster)
A VIA Technologies USB controller which yours may well have had.
So you download a Universal Host Controller driver (Uhcd.sys), driver from here,
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