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Darren
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 Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: TomTom Integrates Highways Agency Data Into HD Traffic |
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TomTom have now integrated Highways Agency data into their HD Traffic service.
The data, collected by the Highways Agency using their network of road surface and roadside monitoring equipment, and combined with reports from the Agency's Traffic Control Centre, will add a further level of detail and incident information to the reports provided by HD Traffic.
More usefully, the data will allow HD Traffic to forewarn of pre-planned incidents that may affect your journey such as temporary road closures.
TomTom's live traffic map can be viewed here and the Highways Agency Press Release can be read in full here.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Considering yet again over recent days the HD Traffic service has been down it doesn't matter what they add to the data if they are incapable of delivering the data to the device, they need to sort out the reliability issues in my opinion - Mike |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: |
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But sorting out reliability issues does not make for a good press release  on account of it admitting they have (had) reliability problems  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully this means HD traffic will be aware of road closures. Been caught a couple of times using Traffic re-routes only to come across a closed local road?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| st1967 wrote: | | Hopefully this means HD traffic will be aware of road closures. Been caught a couple of times using Traffic re-routes only to come across a closed local road? |
I don't think local roads would be covered by The Highways Agency? That's more local council remit I think.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| mikealder wrote: | | Considering yet again over recent days the HD Traffic service has been down it doesn't matter what they add to the data if they are incapable of delivering the data to the device, they need to sort out the reliability issues in my opinion - Mike |
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W90BHP
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: | | I don't think local roads would be covered by The Highways Agency? That's more local council remit I think. |
Correct. The Highways Agency only operate the Strategic Road Network (motorways and some trunk roads). The rest are in the hands of Local Authority Highways Departments. Only a few of these will have traffic monitoring, nevermind data to share. This is where Trafficmaster came in...
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Please to see TomTom HD Traffic improve their offering, but it remains crazy that local government isn't forced (or even, it seems, wants) to alert the main traffic information providers (TomTom, TrafficMaster, etc.) that their roads are closed - yet the remain "committed" to reducing road usage, wasted journeys and reducing the carbon footprint of their area
Oh well, who are we to compare the cost of all those wasted routes and diversions, compared to a quick data update one a day from a local authority
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W90BHP
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| xtraseller wrote: | | ...it remains crazy that local government isn't forced (or even, it seems, wants) to alert the main traffic information providers (TomTom, TrafficMaster, etc.) that their roads are closed... |
Forced at what expense? They generally don't have the infrastructure to source the data, nevermind share it. The technology to collect the data isn't cheap to install and therefore not ideal to come from the public purse.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:23 am Post subject: TomTom Fail (again!) |
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Just clicked on the link, got message "Sorry, traffic information is currently not available"  |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: Re: TomTom Fail (again!) |
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| davemcwish wrote: | | Just clicked on the link, got message "Sorry, traffic information is currently not available" |
Well, I just clicked on it and it worked. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| W90BHP wrote: | | xtraseller wrote: | | ...it remains crazy that local government isn't forced (or even, it seems, wants) to alert the main traffic information providers (TomTom, TrafficMaster, etc.) that their roads are closed... |
Forced at what expense? They generally don't have the infrastructure to source the data, nevermind share it. The technology to collect the data isn't cheap to install and therefore not ideal to come from the public purse. |
Back in the days before I became Tired and Old, I used to run a Highways divisional office. Every week on one day, County Hall would phone through wanting anything for the Traffic Report. We'd say "What was on last week?", they'd tell us and we'd say "No change" or "such and such has ended". It was extremely inconvenient when they rang, so they got grudging response, with very little care as to its accuracy. At more important times (for the public) when we had overnight floods, or high winds, or snow, they'd ring and ask how many trees were down, or how many roads flooded, or how many roads blocked by snow. They rang at whatever time we were up to our ears in phone calls from the public and radio calls from our work crews. So they got whatever came to our minds as a first guess figure. It was a fact that we didn't appreciate (and nobody had ever attempted to explain to us) that the information to be transmitted over the radio was important to the travelling public - to us, the County Hall phone calls were just another annoying interruption when we had far better stuff to deal with. We held the same attitude towards potholes - we wanted to go out and mend them, but County Hall wanted a report of how many we had and eventually issued handheld thingies for precisely that purpose. So we concluded that HQ wanted reports, not action and we treated them with appropriate disdain.
That was back in the 70s. There have been even more reductions in resources since then (even I retired 15 years ago!), so I don't expect any of those depots are any better equipped to deal with traffic reports.
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Given the tunnel fire in NewPort, it is a pity that they didn't sign up with Traffic Wales too. No info on the HD traffic about the motorway being closed, just lots of heavy traffic.
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