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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:44 am Post subject: |
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First the bad news. The program doesn't know anything about roads. Our Google maps are simple bitmaps. So you'll have to live with the occasional false positive.
Now the good news. Yes, presets and defaults are on the roadmap for the next version. Generally you can play with the advanced settings to your heart's content, and then pull al the sliders back into their middle positions. That's the default setting. _________________ Lutz
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Lutz,
First of all, please forgive me if I ask a stupid (or previously asked question) but as I don't have an iPhone (both Bo Peep and I have HTC Desire Android phones) we don't use CamerAlert and thus we don't know it very well.
1. Does CamerAlert have a .ini file that can be set up by one user and shared with other CamerAlert users, on the iPhone or perhaps on day even across other platforms (e.g. Android, Windows Mobile 7, etc)?
2. CamerAlert uses Google maps. Can you store an area of Google maps on the phone or do the maps always have to be downloaded?
3. Can CamerAlert use OpenStreetMap maps, which can sometime be far more accurate and up-to-date than Google Maps? If CamerAlert can use OpenStreetMap Maps do they always have to be downloaded or can they be stored on the phone? If CamerAlert doesn't yet use OpenStreetMap Maps could it be changed so that it could use OpenStreetMap Maps?
Regards, _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
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Darren Frequent Visitor

Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Privateer wrote: | 1. Does CamerAlert have a .ini file that can be set up by one user and shared with other CamerAlert users, on the iPhone or perhaps on day even across other platforms (e.g. Android, Windows Mobile 7, etc)? |
No. There aren't that many settings so I'm not sure why you would need it?
Quote: | 2. CamerAlert uses Google maps. Can you store an area of Google maps on the phone or do the maps always have to be downloaded? |
No, Google prohibit caching to any useful extent.
Quote: | 3. Can CamerAlert use OpenStreetMap maps, which can sometime be far more accurate and up-to-date than Google Maps? If CamerAlert can use OpenStreetMap Maps do they always have to be downloaded or can they be stored on the phone? If CamerAlert doesn't yet use OpenStreetMap Maps could it be changed so that it could use OpenStreetMap Maps? |
It can't currently but it's an option we have considered. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Darren,
Thanks for the quick reply.
CamerAlert seems to be a rapidly evolving project with new functionality and settings being added with each new release. Whilst a .ini file isn't necessary it allows users to test settings and if things go wrong you just reset or restore a backup of the .ini file. It also allows users to swap settings.
You may have users who just want to be warned of cameras on their side of the road and if they are exceeding the limit. You may also have users who want to be warned of all camera, regardless of whether they are exceeding the speed limit. CamerAlert may have extra features added to help PGPSW Verifiers in their task. These settings might be controlled by a .ini file. It's just a thought.
Sounds Like OpenStreetMap could be a worthwhile addition to CamerAlert, especially if the maps could be saved on the phone which would stop the need for downloading and costly roaming charges if in a foreign country.
Regards, _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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From where I sit the sharing of settings/profiles is actually a quite neat idea. At the simplest we could show the actual numeric value for each of the advanced settings, and people could then say which combination works for them and which one doesn't.
Caching: The iOS Google Maps interface does some caching internally, but we have absolutely no control over that. So if you drive the same short route every day you WILL be able to see the (previously cached) maps even without a data connection. But this is of questionable value - since you drive there every day you know where the cameras are.
OSM: We are currently the built-in map API offered by iOS (and based on Google data). Switching to a different map provider (and pin management) is a substantial effort. OSM is an option, but not in the very near future. _________________ Lutz
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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One other thing which might be a useful addition to CamerAlert could be an icon which works in conjunction with the warning that a new database is available. ie when using CamerAlert in the time between a new database being released an downloading the new db.
It could be even better if this icon could then take the user directly to the download option.
I generally download the new db before i get underway, but if you could reduce the number of presses required, it could make the app more user friendly. _________________ Andy
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Darren Frequent Visitor

Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I like that idea, we do need to look at making the steps to updating simpler. I get a few support tickets each week from users asking how to update.
Lutz, another issue is the HUD, can we set this to 'off' by default. Had a few tickets from confused users complaining about a rotated/mirrored display who weren't au-fait with HID. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Is there an easy way to semi-automate night colours? Could you utilise the iPhone's clock to have night colours for, say, 6pm to 6am?
Or, perhaps increase the options:
a) permanent day colours
b) permanent night colours
c) semi-automatic night colours from x pm to x am
There is a built-in sensor for auto screen brightness, but I don't know if that could be used for switching between day and night colours _________________ Andy
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15388 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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GPS_fan wrote: | There is a built-in sensor for auto screen brightness, but I don't know if that could be used for switching between day and night colours |
They don't offer access to that via the SDK... Well, not if you want to sell the app in their AppStore!
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: 02/11/2002 22:41:59 Posts: 11878 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | Lutz, another issue is the HUD, can we set this to 'off' by default. Had a few tickets from confused users complaining about a rotated/mirrored display who weren't au-fait with HID. |
HUD is off by default.
I see three options
- get rid of the functionality
- rename it to "Select this mode when you want the iDevice to flip and rotate the screen when you lay the iDevice falt on the dashboard in front of you so you can see the display in your windshield. Don't use this for couch testing"
- make it non-sticky so if you really want to use it you have to select it on each app start
- educate users better on what it is and how to disable it after they accidentially switched it on. _________________ Lutz
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Darren Frequent Visitor

Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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lbendlin wrote: | HUD is off by default. |
Ah, my bad, has wrongly guessed it was set to ON given the spate of support queries.
Quote: | I see three options
- get rid of the functionality
- rename it to "Select this mode when you want the iDevice to flip and rotate the screen when you lay the iDevice falt on the dashboard in front of you so you can see the display in your windshield. Don't use this for couch testing"
- make it non-sticky so if you really want to use it you have to select it on each app start
- educate users better on what it is and how to disable it after they accidentially switched it on. |
Do we need to be so clever and use the tilt sensor? Can we not have an ON/OFF button instead and keep it simple?
Educating users is a great idea, but almost impossible in practice as no-one reads the manual. So if we can't make the functionality obvious in the app, we have an issue.
On the issue of Day/Night, can we have the button more accessible? When driving it is off the page in the settings which isn't ideal. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15388 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | Do we need to be so clever and use the tilt sensor? Can we not have an ON/OFF button instead and keep it simple? |
but then when you pick up your phone you have to try and use it in mirror-image mode to try to get to the settings to turn it off again...
out of those options i think 'non-sticky' would be the best one.
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: |
Do we need to be so clever and use the tilt sensor? Can we not have an ON/OFF button instead and keep it simple? |
How do you access the OFF button when the display is mirrored and rotated? _________________ Lutz
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Darren Frequent Visitor

Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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lbendlin wrote: | Darren wrote: |
Do we need to be so clever and use the tilt sensor? Can we not have an ON/OFF button instead and keep it simple? |
How do you access the OFF button when the display is mirrored and rotated? |
I've got a few apps that have HUD function, all manage to overcome this easily enough, none use tilt sensor to control it.
You only need to locate and tap the Settings button and ensure that that page is always presented in non HUD mode. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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lbendlin Pocket GPS Staff


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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Funny - that's how ours works too... I didn't know that.
The problem is one that I also mentioned in the Android forum. We need hard data on the usage frequency for each feature/setting before we can rearrange the settings menu. _________________ Lutz
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