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caine9 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 17, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: Variable Speed Cams at 70 |
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Hi Folks
Can anyone advise me on a point? when the matrix on a variable speed cam on a motorway is blank the max speed is then 70mph, does that mean the camera will activate if vehicles travel over that limit or are they only active when the matrix is lit? many thanks |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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The cameras are always active. When the matrix is unlit they are set to 70 mph... |
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caine9 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 17, 2009 Posts: 9 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: Variable Speed Cam |
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Wow that was a quick reply many thanks for the answer!! |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Is that a recent change Paul. I'm sure they USED to be off when the matrix signs were off. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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How can anyone be 'sure'? |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Someone else asked me this last month. The information i read last month was that whilst it was never intended to enforce the NSL soon after it was installed it was switched to enforcing 70 mph when no matrix sign was displayed.
On another website someone confirms their dad (yes, yes i know ) has confirmed the cameras are set to "capture" vehicles travelling over the speed limit when the matrix is off.
Pepipo website has forum members mentioning that they have been flashed at 80-90 mph when the matrix signs where off. Doesn't mention NIPs though.... Another "confirmed" his work college received a NIP for an offence exceeding 70 mph when the matrix signs where off.
However other information says that with the change from wet film to digital earlier this year the trigger speed for the cameras when there is no speed displayed on the matrix was dropped from 90 mph to the more usual ACPO 70 mph + 10% + 2 mph (79 mph).
Now, none of this is cast iron, inside information, however when the matrix signs are off i drive as it they are set to 70 mph.... |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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PaulB2005 wrote: | however when the matrix signs are off i drive as it they are set to 70 mph.... |
That's certainly the safest bet Paul |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | That's certainly the safest bet Paul |
Just don't ask what i do when the matrix signs are on though....
Back OT. Thinking back over the last few weeks (i had several trips through the entire section) I'm surprised by the number of vehicles that go a lot faster that 70 through the area when the matrix signs are off. Perhaps this lends more weight to the theory they don't work at all with the matrix off... |
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falkirk81 Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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PaulB2005 wrote: | Perhaps this lends more weight to the theory they don't work at all with the matrix off... |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Poll:
Who should make the ultimate sacrifice?
O Dennis
O MaFt
O Someone else? |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15156 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: | Poll:
Who should make the ultimate sacrifice?
O MaFt |
not me, i already got married back in 2001 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: | Poll:
Who should make the ultimate sacrifice?
O Dennis |
Not I (which is both grammatically and uppercaseically correct), I already got divorced back in 1998. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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jc50 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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uppercaseically....is that hypothetically or grammatically correct ? _________________ "You have reached your destination" |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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This is certainly true of the M25 Variable Speed Section Cameras.
They 'used' to be active only when a lower speed limit was in operation but since switching to digital they are now active all the time, either at the variable speed or 70 if no lower limit is in force. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's great, thanks for the confirmation, as that's a section of road I travel on a lot, and part of me still tends to think they're off when the signs are off. |
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