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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: Speed camera files |
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Hi
Until now I have benn able to down load to my Tomtom a single file with all cameras. This option seems to have gone.
Which option should I now choose and will I be able to drop it staight into file as normal.
Also will I have to reset all my alarms.
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Pete |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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It was removed because or the inherent limitation of not being able to tell the difference between actual cameras and POSSIBLE mobile sites.
One effect of this was to generate hundreds of incorrect requests to remove the apparently "wrong" cameras.
The choice of which alternative to use is down to your preference.
The "Consolidated by type" version splits the cameras up into GATSO, SPECS, MOBILE, REDLIGHT etc, so you can see what sort of camera it is going to be, while the "Speed-zoned" version splits them up in the same way but ALSO into the speed limit for each.
This means you can have on-screen AND VOICE warnings telling you what the speed limit is for each camera you pass. (There's a separate download of the voice files available from this site)
You *will* have to redo the alarms, but if you have been using the single file version, you would only have had ONE alarm set up to now, won't you?
Also, don't forget to delete the last file you installed of the old version, called "pocketgps_uk_sc.ov2" (and you may also have the provisional mobile sites file called "pocketgps_uk_pmobile.ov2") otherwise you will get two sets of warnings from the old AND the new files.
Finally, if you REALLY want to carry on using the single file version, it is still available if you choose .csv format when you download. You can then use a program like POI Edit (poiedit.com) to change it back to the ov2 file format you've been using upto now.
But do try one of the other versions... They're much more useful. |
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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: Camera Files |
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Hi Andy
In my folder UK and Republic of Ireland I have 126 items most seem to be pocket gps files. Do I delete all Items in the folder. If not which ones.
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Peter |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Camera Files |
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pvi wrote: | Hi Andy
In my folder UK and Republic of Ireland I have 126 items most seem to be pocket gps files. Do I delete all Items in the folder. If not which ones.
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There should be a lot of files in that folder (it's your actual map after all!) but if you've been using the PGPSW single file camera database up to now, there shouldn't be more than half a dozen or so of those files.
Basically, you should delete only any files with names starting "Pocket_GPS...." and nothing else. |
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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: Camera Files |
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Hi Andy
Thanks for all your help.
I deleted all the pocket gps files and down loaded the Consolidated by type.
I can only set on distance for the alarm be it 30mph or 70 mph I don't quite see how this will work.
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Peter |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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For speed related warnings you need to download and install the Speed Zoned database, this offers the most comprehensive setup and whilst it takes a little longer to configure (circa 5 minutes with practice) its well worth the effort - Mike |
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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: Camera files |
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Hi Mike
Thanks for yor help.
I have got all the files down loaded from the Speed Zoned database and what I have now seems very similar to a single file with all cameras Data Base. What is the diference and what are the Spec Cameras.
Thanks again
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Peter |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: |
The "Consolidated by type" version splits the cameras up into GATSO, SPECS, MOBILE, REDLIGHT etc, so you can see what sort of camera it is going to be |
Andy_P wrote: | while the "Speed-zoned" version splits them up in the same way but ALSO into the speed limit for each. |
So you need the speed-zoned to be able to set different warnings for each speed limit.
I'm a bit confused by when you say it is very similar to the single file version. You should have Lots more files and now be able to set warning sounds and distances for each camera type and speed separately. You couldn't do that with the single file version.
SPECS cameras are the average speed set-ups often seen in motorway roadworks and on some of the M25 gantries. They measure your speed between two sets of cameras spaces some distance (often miles) apart.
In case you were wondering, a good set of distances to use for all the fixed cameras is 10 yards for every mile per hour - so for 20mph cameras use 200 yards, for 30mph cameras use 300yards, etc.
Mobile sites using radar guns can catch you over a much larger distance, so many of us tend to double the distances to 400yards for 20mph, 600yards for 30mph etc. just for the mobiles. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Also, when you've got your speed-zoned database up and running, consider adding the voice warnings to it from THIS page
Then, instead of going "bong" it will say something like "Warning, Gatso camera, 40 miles per hour limit" as you approach |
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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: Camera Files |
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Hello Andy
I have tried the voice warnings but I find the volume level a bit on the low side compared with the other Tomtom instructions.
As I am partially deaf I find a sound easier to identify than a voice.
Thanks again for all your help.
Dont forget to keep it simple as we are not all in our teens
Regards Peter |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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The volumes ARE a bit low, compared to the text to speech voices but there's not a lot we can do until Tomtom give us individual volume controls for the various audio sections. It may be worth switching to a "real" voice as the warnings match those better, or tying a different warning voice as some do "cut through" a bit better then others.
Apart from that, are you all 'up and running' with the speed zoned cameras and warnings now? |
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Calomax Lifetime Member
Joined: Sep 30, 2005 Posts: 988 Location: St Martin's, Guernsey
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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You can choose voice warnings with an associated siren if you wish. _________________ TT Go Essential |
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pvi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: Camera Files |
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Hi Andy
Thanks for all your help.
I am up and running now with sound warnings.
I can see the advantage of verbal warnings and will consider it in the future when you get the individual volume controls.
Thanks again
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Peter |
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